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To: Richard Mazzarella who wrote (58298)9/18/2000 9:22:26 PM
From: lorne  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116762
 
AngloGold CEO warns gold industry could fade into 'oblivion'
Story Filed: Monday, September 18, 2000 1:51 PM EST

SEP 18, 2000, M2 Communications - Gold is at strong risk of losing its character as a serious investment venue, something that people think about when they decide what to do with their money, according to Bobby Godsell, the chief executive of South African gold producer AngloGold Ltd.

If mining companies don't succeed in reviving the gold industry's weakened image the industry is in danger of 'oblivion' within a few years, Godsell warns adding he is very much in favour of the cheapening of gold to make it available for everyone.

AngloGold earlier this year paid ZAR55m for a 25% stake in South African jewellery group OroAfrica and plans to use the group for an assault on the youth market, particularly in the US and Europe and possibly in China.

The gold producer has also formed an e-commerce venture called the Gold Avenue with JP Morgan and is working with the World Gold Council on the liberalisation of China's rigidly regulated gold industry to increase gold jewellery consumption.
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To: Richard Mazzarella who wrote (58298)9/18/2000 10:56:55 PM
From: LLCF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116762
 
<IMO gold investing won't do much until someone discovers a significant new industrial use. >

That's very interesting... gold is flying high in most of the world, what you're really saying is that the dollar is invincible.

DAK



To: Richard Mazzarella who wrote (58298)9/18/2000 11:52:34 PM
From: goldsheet  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116762
 
> Maybe higher energy costs will give that application some life?

I see it giving PGMs an increased use, but not gold.
Gold doesn't have many industrial uses relative to its primary jewelry use (80%+)



To: Richard Mazzarella who wrote (58298)1/9/2002 11:40:11 AM
From: long-gone  Respond to of 116762
 
Critics Slam Proposed U.N. Tax Authority

Tuesday, January 08, 2002
By Refet Kaplan

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NEW YORK - The United Nations is gearing up for what could be yet another
explosively controversial international conference, this time over charges the organization wants to create a powerful worldwide tax bureaucracy.

Supporters see the International Conference on Financing for Development, set for Monterrey, Mexico, from March 18-22, as a chance for world governments to address a wide range of financial issues related to global development.

But critics of the U.N. see a far more disturbing agenda in the works.

"This is scary. They're talking about establishing an extra layer of government at the world level," said Veronique de Rugy, an analyst at the Washington-based Cato Institute. "Their goal is an international tax cartel that would work to keep taxes high."

The controversy centers in part around a proposal to create something called the International Tax Organization. The organization would help nations collect and disseminate information on tax policies and, opponents insist, assess its own taxes, help governments tax emigrant citizens working in other countries and even compel member states to share tax data.

U.N. officials and their supporters said that's overstating the case.

"This has nothing to do with taxing anybody. That is specifically what this proposal is not about," said Tim Hall, a U.N. spokesman. Hall said the most recent draft text for Monterrey calls for "strengthened international tax cooperation through enhanced dialogue," and does not call for the establishment of an international tax organization.

But there's no language guaranteeing just exactly what's going to be inserted into the Monterrey document during a preparatory conference in New York next week. Much of the meeting's agenda has yet to be revised and approved.

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The debate threatens to disrupt if not entirely derail the Monterrey
discussions, something U.N. officials are anxious to prevent. The
organization is still recovering from the embarrassing collapse of its
anti-racism conference in South Africa last fall, the latest in a series of
controversial international gatherings that have taken place in recent years.

Some predict a messy affair if the tax organization issues aren't fully
addressed in the coming weeks.

"What you're going to see in Monterrey will make Durban [anti-racism
conference] seem like a party," said one U.N. observer who asked not to be
named. "This has the potential to be much more embarrassing when people
find out the full scope of what they're really planning."

Critics are particularly worried the United States, which could normally be
counted on to quickly and loudly reject any thoughts of a world taxing
authority, might be more open to sign on to a deal in the post-Sept. 11
political climate.

"Because of what happened on Sept. 11, the U.S. may be more willing to buy
into some sort of information exchange," added de Rugy. "Usually the U.S.
is in favor of financial privacy . but now it is seen as something that
protects terrorists."

Critics should also resist the temptation "to dismiss this kind of report
as just another U.N. fantasy," others said.

"This is a problem because it meshes completely with what the EU and OECD
[Organization for European Cooperation and Development] has been trying to
do for some time," said Dan Mitchell, of the Heritage Foundation think tank
in Washington.

High-tax countries like France have long lamented their loss of human and
financial resources to lower-taxed nations like the United States. An
international tax agency would thus work to reduce such "tax competition"
between nations.

"There is a concern that through better cooperation, you would avoid a race
to the bottom" of tax competition, said Hall. "It could be a much more fair
way of doing taxes, and actually help avoid double taxation for some."

That doesn't sound right to low-tax advocates. They fear decreased "tax
competition" would only force foreign nationals working in the United
States to pay higher taxes to their native governments or, even more
disturbing, compel the United States to raise its own tax rates.

"What the U.N. is trying to do is act on behalf of high-tax nations who
refuse to face the facts of the global economy," de Rugy argued. "They want
to force low-tax countries to increase their taxes."

There is also the question of how much money the United States would gain
or lose as a result of greater international tax cooperation.

Some argue an international tax organization - in whatever form it takes -
could help the U.S. Treasury collect hundreds of millions in dollars from
American tax cheats who have taken refuge overseas. Others believe America
would lose billions if anxious overseas investors pull their money out of
U.S. businesses in attempt to avoid any international tax regulations.

U.N. advocates like Hall say all this uncertainty proves meetings like
Monterrey are necessary.

"There's no question there are lots of ideas floating around with these
countries," he said. "But you have to remember it's the individual
governments that run the show. No one can make them do something they do
want to do."

Skeptics, meanwhile, just hope the United States and other like-minded
nations aren't going to be dealt cards from a stacked deck.

"A lot of the work at these things is done well in advance, and I'm not
sure there will be any adult supervision here," said Mitchell. "It's up to
the U.S. government to protect it's own interests, and not let a bad idea
snowball into something much, much bigger."