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To: ciVic who wrote (31455)	9/19/2000 2:57:41 AM
From: Chris land	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

It is up to Us to this choose to be in His will and choose His Son or not. Does a man who is dead in trespasses and sin give a #### about eternal life? Go pinch a corpse and see if it sits up and says "OUCH". It will not because it cannot as it is dead and unable to respond. Such is how God finds us, SPIRITUALLY DEAD IN OUR TRESPASSES AND SINS. IT IS HE WHO CAUSES US TO LIVE FOR HIM! Chris

To: ciVic who wrote (31455)	9/20/2000 3:03:21 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

~Desperado~ <<It is a cop-out to pass all the responsiblity onto God. God has layed it all out there for us, the rest is up to us to either eat from His table or not.>>> Remember this song /Hymn " Desperado "** by the Eagles , Greg? Great Song: Desperado.... why don't you come to your senses? You been out ridin' fences for so long now. Oh, you're a hard one, I know that you got your reasons, these things that are pleasin' you can hurt you somehow. ~Don't you draw the queen of diamonds, boy, she'll beat you if she's able, ...you know the queen of hearts is always your best bet. Now it seems to me some fine things ...have been laid upon your table, but you only want the ones that you can't get... Desperado... oh, you ain't gettin' no younger, your pain and your hunger, they're drivin' you home. And freedom, oh, freedom, well, that's just some people talkin', your prison is walkin' through this world all alone. ~Don't your feet get cold in the winter time? ....and the sky won't snow and the sun won't shine, it's hard to tell the nighttime from the day. ...You're losin' all your highs and lows. Ain't it funny how the feelin' goes away? Desperado.... why don't you come to your senses? Come down from your fences, open the gate. It may be rainin', but there's a rainbow above you. You better let somebody love you, you better let somebody love you before it's too late. Now it seems to me some fine things ...have been laid upon your table, but you only want the ones that you can't get. ~It may be rainin'.... but there's a rainbow above you. ..You better let somebody love you, you better let somebody love you before it's too late. (The Kingdom of heaven is spread upon the earth...The love is there in just the maintanence of the world , and the changing of the seasons . Yet we just do not see, or make the sarafices to open up the joys of accepting it...it is a formless grace , a balance , an unfolding, a terrible beauty, a long journey, a giving up, a living simply and ardently thru meditation and prayer...It is a "Moveable Feast" ....and It was finished long ago. ) ;-)

To: ciVic who wrote (31455)	9/20/2000 7:03:06 AM
From: Alan Markoff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Dear ciV, Arguing against Calvinism here is a frustrating experience. It appears that Jonah knew God better than most people read this; Jonah 4 10 But the Lord said, "You have been concerned about this vine, though you did not tend it or make it grow. It sprang up overnight and died overnight. 11 But Nineveh has more than one hundred and twenty thousand people who can not tell their right hand from their left, and many cattle as well. Should I not be concerned about that great city?" Jonah had said I know you are gracious and compassionate slow to anger and abounding in love, and that made him angry because he wanted them (the other people) to be destroyed by God. God loved the many people in Nineveh and if you know history it was not a very moral place. Just some thoughts. May the Lord Bless You, Nancy