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To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (20068)9/20/2000 3:55:44 PM
From: AllansAlias  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
Yes, yes, but the point I am suggesting is that they lose a significant amount of force when not "hammering out a bottom". This is based on personal experience and I have no good data to back up my claim.