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Technology Stocks : How high will Microsoft fly? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: keithsha who wrote (49641)	9/21/2000 12:00:33 PM
From: JC Jaros	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74651

Keith - I'm sorry for the inference as to intent. I pushed 'submit' on that post and went to edit it, as I often do directly afterwords and the system went down. If I would have had access to my post, I would have removed the part about BS-ing the thread. It certainly may be the case that you're just grossly misinformed or *that pollyannish. I do have a previous experience in forums such as this, back in the early days of Win32 when MS was attempting the mindshare and actually employed the tactic of sending their people online as shills to flat out lie about their product (all documented since) and attack the competitive product (OS/2) in the big push to mount developer mindshare. --- You should appreciate that MS has done that in the past and that I've been witness to it. If you were me, you'd be a little quick on the ad hominem draw with MS employees too. --- So, to go back and fix a misunderstanding, you're saying that MS's forthcoming product, which does not yet exist, will, in your opinion, somehow recapture dominant mindshare for Microsoft based on whatever casual distributing of 6 million previously distributed copies of 3 year old MS Visual Studio? To which you add Java developer book sales rankings reflect a huge swell of interest by 'hobbyists'?? -JCJ

To: keithsha who wrote (49641)	9/21/2000 2:49:59 PM
From: dybdahl	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

I have been a Visual Studio subscriber for a number of years, but I only used it very little. I know many who subscribe to MSDN and get Visual Studio as part of it. But they don't use it. As you correctly have pointed out, developers are extremely important for platforms. The best Windows developers I know, all do Linux at home. When I teach programming, it seems that not so good programmers get up and running much easier on Linux than on Windows, because Windows is too complex for them. The more advanced programmers like Linux, because, as Linux Thorvalds pointed out in an interview: The most important design issue on Linux is.... it is meant to be fun. And it is. Windows 95 was extremely much fun when it finally surfaced. Much more fun than NT was (I don't know why), but MSFT doesn't seem to deliver the entertainment for highly qualified programmers any more. Too much business, too much marketing. It's killing the roots.