To: Rarebird who wrote (58610 ) 9/21/2000 7:50:32 PM From: d:oug Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116768 Rarebird, Remember when a teacher in highschool would add an extra bit of instructions from her personal beliefs based on being told by her teacher as words of wisdoms... on and on, that "After reading the question put down the first answer that comes to mind, don't dwell on it and move on."? Not sure if this was to reflect a time issue or reflect a "truth" that on certain type questions like "Who is your favorite parent, your Mon or Dad?" the first image may be the real answer. Never was I comfortable with that guidance, infact I was never trustful of any teachers or grownup after my first day in kindergarten at age 4 I realized that "something is very wrong" with the concurrent realization that the adults of both school and home and on the streets had an attitude of "Don't worry, be happy." Guess I took that "Don't trust anyone over 30." to a lower level of "Don't trust anyone over 5." ok, ok I hear you "Dougggggggggg, WHATs your POINT???" I read your reply to Richard and the following thought popped. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ (your post) <if we can rid ourselves of the manipulators.> You want to rid the World of Humans? Tell me, how do you rid yourself of human nature without killing Humanity? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ My "glorious/illustrious/WHAT!/duh!/etc" thought, as follows. "When manipulation is outlawed, then only outlaws will be manipulators." ok, so now I think about the "answer" and oops, i think. I'm anti-NRA, but pro-HandGunCarry, and we all heard... "When guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will have guns." My first thoughts about what popped is that its a lead balloon. doug