Bob thank you, today ML stated that there would be little impacton q3 earnings due to higher than financial gains Regards -Albert
ps and something that many here would love to see: Intel Drop Seen as Buying Opportunity for Optimistic Investors 9/22/0 15:17 (New York)
Intel Drop Seen as Buying Opportunity for Optimistic Investors
New York, Sept. 22 (Bloomberg) -- Intel Corp.'s record share- price drop has some investors lining up to buy. ``I love panic -- these are exciting times to take advantage of,'' said Howard Ward, manager of the Gabelli Growth Fund. ``Long- term investors should be taking advantage of this. If there are no further adjustments to this year, earnings will still be up nicely year-over-year for Intel.'' Intel, the world's largest computer-chip maker, late yesterday warned that third-quarter sales will lag forecasts on slack demand in Europe. The shares tumbled as much as 24 percent, their biggest decline in history, erasing about $100 billion in market value and sending other computer-related stocks plummeting. Volume of 268 million shares made it the most actively traded stock ever. The company's sales and earnings are still rising, and some investors said Intel is big enough to ride out the whims of the personal-computer market, where it gets about 85 percent of revenue. The shares are poised to rebound as Intel adds products for fast-growing areas like wireless and networking appliances, they said, making the stock's drop today an opportunity to buy. The shares fell 12.92 to 48.56 in late trading. With the stock trading at 28 times next year's earnings, investors said it's cheap enough to wait through a quarter or two of slower growth and the stock will recover, as it has after past slowdowns. ``It's worse than expected, but you don't sell it here,'' said Noah Blackstein of Dynamic Mutual Funds, which owns the stock. ``You sell at 70; you don't sell at 45 or 46. Intel will rebound.''
Forecast
Intel's third-quarter sales will rise 3 percent to 5 percent from the second quarter's $8.3 billion, spokesman Tom Beermann said yesterday, less than some analysts' forecasts for growth of as much as 10 percent. Shares of PC makers and related companies tumbled on concern that industry sales will disappoint in the second half, when back-to-school and holiday shopping usually bolsters demand. PCs represent only part of the picture for Intel's future, investors said. The Santa Clara, California-based company is broadening its offerings, building new chips for networking and wireless gear that connects to the Internet in a bet that consumer devices will need powerful processors to support new audio and video applications on the Web. ``I am not worried about Intel at all,'' said Lucien Ruby of Crown Advisors Ltd., which owns Intel shares. ``There's not a better company in the world.''
Rocky Road
Intel shareholders have held on through bumpy rides in recent years as the stock rose and fell on expected changes in PC demand. After the chipmaker's last warning in March 1998, shares fell 13 percent the next day. That warning came after demand had fallen as Asian currencies crashed and consumer confidence tumbled. Investors that held on since then have reaped the rewards -- Intel shares have more then doubled since the 1998 warning, adjusted for two stock splits. The slowdown in Europe stems from increasing concern about local economies that have crimped consumer and corporate purchases. Though Europe is a major hub of PC demand, the shortfall there isn't as significant as the Asian crisis, investors said. ``This is not as bad as the 1998 warning,'' said Todd Ifkovits, portfolio manager at Detroit-based Jay A. Fishman Ltd., an investment counseling firm that owns Intel shares. The euro has declined about 7.6 percent against the dollar since June 30. Without the effect of converting its sales outside the U.S. into dollars, Intel could have posted higher revenue, investors and analysts said. In addition, the Group of Seven nations intervened for the first time today, joining forces to buy euros in an attempt to stem the currency's slide. ``Demand in the rest of the world is relatively strong,'' said analyst Stephen C. Dube of Wasserstein Perella Securities. ``I think there should be a relatively quick rebound from the situation in Europe, still sluggish growth but not as bad as we see right now.'' Ifkovits, a longtime Intel shareholder, said he's seen ``temporary supply issues'' before and his confidence isn't shaken now. He's not alone in his support. ``There are many times it's been down 10 to 15 percent over the years due to various deviations in PC demand,'' said Gary Nussbaum, a portfolio manager at Peregrine Capital Management with $5.5 billion under management.
Taking a Risk
Analysts disagree about whether Intel's warning signals trouble for the chip and PC industries. Intel hasn't been able to make enough high-end processors to meet demand this year, and some say that's still the case. Though some companies have scaled back their expectations for growth in cellular phone sales, investors said consumers are still snapping up electronics gear and the holidays will boost sales of electronic organizers, game systems and even PCs. Evolving technologies and new functions for those machines will propel chipmakers back on top, they said. Louis Kokernak, senior equity strategist at Martin Capital Advisors, sees a time to take a risk. His firm is borrowing money to buy shares that mimic the tech-heavy Nasdaq 100 Index. ``We're making a bet the market is going to recover,'' Kokernak said. ``It's a fairly bullish move for us. October '98 was the last time we've done it, and that really paid off.'' Some investors also expect quarterly earnings reports from Dell Computer Corp., Compaq Computer Corp. and other PC makers that will show demand isn't as bad as naysayers think. Analysts have noted better-than-expected demand for high-end PCs in Asia and rising sales in the U.S. and Latin America. ``It's the summer,'' Blackstein said. ``The only reason we had strong demand (last year) is we had Y2K. It's the normal season stuff.'' Shareholders admit Intel stock is a long-term bet. Kokernak doesn't expect European demand to pick up until the second quarter of next year, and many investors are looking for months of lackluster performance in the stock. Yet when it's all over, they said Europe -- and Intel -- will rebound. ``If you were on your deathbed and you had to pick one stock, I'd pick Intel,'' said Crown Advisor's Ruby.
--Cesca Antonelli in the San Francisco newsroom (415) 743-3532, or fantonelli@bloomberg.net, with reporting by Mike Lovell in San Francisco, John Stebbins in Chicago, Dina Bass in Seattle, David Zielenziger in New York and Anthony Massucci in Princeton/jac |