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To: Bilow who wrote (54979)	9/24/2000 5:36:16 PM
From: mishedlo	Respond to of 93625

<<The first generation are already available for production, as of September 20.>> That's nice. When will we see the fist real PCs for sale. The quarter ends in - hmmmm - how many days? 3rd quarter bragging can commence when we see that first PC for sale. 3rd quarter bragging aint gonna happen. I doubt 4th quarter bragging will happen before P4 launch if at all. On second thought - I have seen all too much bragging on all too little product. Why should you stop now?!

To: Bilow who wrote (54979)	9/24/2000 5:42:50 PM
From: mishedlo	Respond to of 93625

<<This reminds me of how all you guys were so sure that VIA wasn't going to have DDR until 3Q01 because you misread the announcement>> <<The first generation are already available for production, as of September 20.>> That's nice. When will we see the fist real PCs for sale. The quarter ends in - hmmmm - how many days? OOPS - What quarter is this? Looks like we said 3'rd quarter but you said 2nd quarter. WELL WELL WELL, guess we were both wrong - LOL. Looks like we were fooled by your 1st and 2nd quarter bragging to think we actually might see a single PC by the end of the third quarter. 3rd quarter bragging can commence when we see that first PC for sale. 3rd quarter bragging aint gonna happen. Looks like your best chance for a production DDR PC will be late 4th quarter. I doubt 4th quarter bragging will happen before P4 launch if at all. On second thought - I have seen all too much bragging on all too little product. Why should you stop now?! P.S. After posting I Noticed carl said 2001. Nonetheless, Carl you have been bragging about DDR availability for Second and 3rd quarter this year and it has not happend. Upon further analysis my post stands.

To: Bilow who wrote (54979)	9/24/2000 6:27:39 PM
From: sylvester80	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

Bilow, And we still haven't seen any production VIA chipsets. And what they said about volume production doesn't look good at all for VIA and DDR: quoteserver.dogpile.com quoted from article: "Some brand-name OEMs will show demonstration systems at Comdex this fall, but they'll take the customary four to five months to test and qualify DDR chipsets for production systems. That means commercial PC OEMs will make their big DDR launch in mid-2001." "He thought consumer-PC OEMs might miss the spring 2001 introduction for the back-to-school market and would make their big DDR push for the 2001 holiday selling season." And to think that Micron demonstrated the Samurai at Fall Comdex...1999 and predicted DDR PCs in Q1 2000. LOL. All I can say is that for something that was supposed to be easy to do cause it was a brother, sister, cousin, whatever to SDRAM, it has proven much more difficult than RDRAM (and RDRAM only had Intel instead of those hundrends of design houses that you love to tell us about) and at least RDRAM is real. I wonder who's going to pay for all this big DDR R&D expense? The bashers? ;-)