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To: Scumbria who wrote (55194)	9/26/2000 4:50:30 AM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93625

Scumbria, <Clinton has done an outstanding job of managing the nation's business. It is too bad that so many focus only on his personal failings.> So honesty and integrity is of primary importance to you, but they still take a back seat to whoever can get the job done, right? So go ahead and lie/cheat/steal, as long as you do a good job. What a great lesson to teach the children of the new millennium. Tenchusatsu P.S. - You really shouldn't respond to those who are questioning your moral integrity. It's their fault for not being able to take your *opinions* for what they're worth.

To: Scumbria who wrote (55194)	9/26/2000 11:58:11 AM
From: Dave B	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93625

OTOTOTOTOTOT Scumbria, Clinton has done an outstanding job of managing the nation's business. It is too bad that so many focus only on his personal failings. First, he lied about his sexual activities under oath, in a job-related sexual harassment lawsuit (in which it is perfectly appropriate to ask someone about their sexual activities), so it's no longer in the realm of personal failings -- it's job related. This is exactly the type of behavior that the sexual harassment laws were put in place in the 60s/70s to protect women against. I had many discussions with friends about how much you "forgive" since he's "doing a good job". I found an interestingly strong correlation between the "let it slide" attitude and loose ethics -- the friends of mine who are willing to cut ethical corners were the first to forgive Clinton. As far as I can tell, our legal system does not generally take into account whether an employee is "doing a good job" before they decide whether or not he's guilty of sexual harrassment. Not bank presidents, nor policeman, nor engineers. Nowhere is "doing a good job" factored in. The courts might factor in whether the person can provide a more useful service by not being in jail (community service, etc.), but someone can always fill their job. I happen to agree with you that he's done a reasonably good job running the country, for the most part (I even voted for him in '96). But that doesn't have anything to do with whether or not he should lose his job, just as many others have lost theirs, for lying under oath. JMHO, Dave