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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (1088)	9/26/2000 9:48:02 PM
From: Solon	Respond to of 28931

We agree that all things are observed relatively because observation must always originate from a different point of view. But most observations by people are fairly complementary in spite of the relativity of perception. We can rely on such things as not running a saw blade across the ankle, not eating poison, and watching where you put your tongue on the first date. There is incredible unanimity when it comes to extremely precise subjects or endeavors. Thus, we can build sky scrapers into the (ahemm) heavens, using this agreement, and we trust the reality of reality sufficiently to live in them. The differences in perception are minuscule amongst rational people, and can usually be attributed to sensory independence. In the realm of thought--well, mathematics and logic are also perceived and communicated in a consistent manner. I believe that the differences in experiencing reality can be readily explained by sensory independence, without supposing that reality is not itself. I think you are being sneaky if you sneak the idea of ideal forms into this, and I applaud you for that! :)

To: epicure who wrote (1088)	9/26/2000 11:06:18 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

<<I don't really know what IS out there (and neither does anyone else)<< How could you both assert that, you don't know what is out there, while at the same time asserting that you do know (that nobody else knows)? How could that be? ??How could you possibly know whether or not anyone else knows?! If your knowledge is relative, you can never justify absolute opinions. And...your relative opinions may indeed be wrong. Your belief that everything is relative, is a relative belief (according to your relative understanding), and it may be wrong. You must forgive me for that! I feel like playing, but I have to go back to work, and that is aggravating to me. You are very logical. Hence, that which takes the appearance of undermining the reliability of logic, is somewhat of a catch 22. Again, this is about principles not persons, so no criticism is involved. I think it is a worthwhile topic to toss around. The concepts of illusion and relativity are ancient, and worthy of discussion here. I know you will take my school yard antics in good fun!