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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (966)	9/28/2000 1:53:24 AM
From: KLP	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10042

Just finished reading "Sellout" by David P. Schippers, and think it is REQUIRED reading by ANY THINKING American! No matter what your political feelings....read this book if you value the Constitution at all! And then tell mention it to 10 other people you respect, and have them read it, and pass it their feelings to another 10....Mr. Schippers is one of the few true American patriots....IMO....And most of you know he is a "life long Democrat" (see the job his cousin has)...he is 70 years old, is a attorney, a judge, and was the Republican counsel for the Impeachment Hearings... I would love to see just how many people really will do this before the election. I was truly appalled to realize that NOT ONE Senator in the ENTIRE Senate (either side) came to view any of the evidence....which for all sorts of reasons he talks in this book, wasn't put forth....but WAS AVAILABLE!!! KLP

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (966)	9/28/2000 7:56:02 AM
From: long-gone	Respond to of 10042

Outrage Over Clinton Land Proposals Sep 27, 2000 1:07 AM Sylvia Milligan admits it: In election years past, she was a political boob. A retired teacher in northern California, Milligan called her girlfriends for schooling on political issues. She voted, sure, and always Democrat, although she can't remember her presidential choices beyond Kennedy and Clinton. ``Anything political,'' she confesses, ``went right over my head.'' Dennis Smouse was equally unenlightened. A plant supervisor in rural Pennsylvania, Smouse can't recall whether he supported Clinton or Dole in 1996, even though he's a registered Republican. ``I don't think I voted for Bill,'' he says. ``I hope to hell not.'' This year, the West Coast Democrat and the East Coast Republican have traded ignorance for involvement, driven by an issue uniting a strange brew of voters nationwide: Access to public lands. Avid snowmobilers, Milligan and Smouse were so enraged by a Clinton administration proposal to ban snowmobiles in national parks that they're campaigning for Republican George W. Bush. Both are proud owners of ``Snowmobilers for Bush'' bumper stickers. ``When Clinton started his shenanigans, it just made me mad,'' says Smouse of Towanda, Pa., who also is volunteering for the campaign of a Republican congressman and plans to take Election Day off to work a polling place. The snowmobile ban is one of a flurry of policies the Clinton administration has proposed this year limiting access to national forests and parks and other public lands. Others include a plan to prohibit road development in 43 million acres of forest land and Clinton's designation of 10 new national monuments at which mining, logging, oil drilling and off-road vehicle use are banned or restricted. Vice President Al Gore's campaign says Gore isn't worried about any political backlash. ``There may be those who disagree, but he thinks it's only right to conserve public lands for our children and protect the environment while we work to grow the economy,'' says Gore campaign spokesman Doug Hattaway. Bush has vowed to review all Clinton-Gore administration policies that limit uses of federal lands. ``He would work much more closely with states and local people on these kinds of decisions, and not have high-handed edicts issued from far away in Washington,'' Bush spokesman Andrew Malcolm says. ``High-handed'' is a polite way of describing the Clinton policies, to some of the newly energized. ``I have voted Democrat all of my life, but at this point - no way,'' says Milligan of Anderson, Calif. ``I call this the War in the West. We're fighting to keep the public lands open.'' Fighting along with her are bikers, ranchers, unionized mill workers - some Democratic turncoats, others longtime Republicans. A few, like Milligan and Smouse, are political neophytes getting involved for the first time. Others, while politically active in the past, have never been so compelled to take action. ``This roadless thing and the national monuments are ludicrous,'' says motorcyclist Harold Soens of Santee, Calif., who has campaigned for Republicans before and is pitching yard signs for Bush this year. He and other bikers attended the California Republican Party convention to hand out literature against the proposals. ``The only way to stop it is to get rid of the people in office today.'' (cont) chblue.com

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (966)	9/28/2000 8:11:54 AM
From: Cage Rattler	Respond to of 10042

Fair enough. I am convinced that the insurance industry has an inappropriate strangle hold on healthcare delivery and is degrading healthcare delivery at all levels within that system. I have spoken with folks here and feel that Gores stance on health care, as expressed during his Florida speech, sets the gauntlet on the threshold of the insurance industry, "Clean up your act or get clobbered." Gore has outlined semi-specific steps he will take and they appear sound to me. Credibility, and will he change his story, are the only concerns. When you look to GW for something specific, what do I find? Political generalizations and hooplah. This single issue, which is Gore's strongest comparative issue in my opinion, may cost Bush the election. It is an emotionally charged and very serious issue to more voters than some folks think.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (966)	9/28/2000 8:13:38 AM
From: Cage Rattler	Respond to of 10042

Fair enough. I am convinced that the insurance industry has an inappropriate strangle hold on healthcare delivery and is degrading healthcare delivery at every level within that system. I have spoken with folks here and feel that Gores stance on health care, as expressed during his Florida speech, sets the gauntlet on the threshold of the insurance industry, "Clean up your act or get clobbered." Gore has outlined semi-specific steps he will take and they appear sound to me. Credibility, and will he change his story, are the only concerns. When you look to GW for something specific, what do I find? Political generalizations and hooplah. This single issue, which is Gore's strongest comparative issue in my opinion, may cost Bush the election. It is an emotionally charged and very serious issue to more voters than some folks think.