To: Boplicity who wrote (4222 ) 9/28/2000 12:25:15 PM From: mtnlady Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 65232 I think CSCO will continue to dominate with others (JNPR, FDRY etc..) eating up their high end market share. NT's attack on the router front will be on the low end. NT has partnered with close to 100 other companies, including MSFT, Intel and others, to incorporate NT's routing software into their product offerings. Basically NT sees the low/mid range router market as a software product, not a hardware. Christmas time NT slashed their hardware routers drastically to eat away at CSCO market share - and more importantly - lower CSCO's profit margins. CSCO was using their profits to buy up companies at insane prices trying to break into NT's fiber optic sector. NT fired back by attacking CSCO on their home front. End game.. routers belong to CSCO with FDRY, JNPR and others making major inroads in the high end market. I think NT is on the right front with making the low / mid range router market a software offering that comes bundled with windows, intel chips, and other products. The end result of all of this is Cisco is in for a time of it over the next several years. And without any serious market penetration into the fiber optic realm. What is the next *big thing* that will keep Cisco a float with their bread and butter router market starts to go to the dogs? That's why I won't invest in Cisco or LU. NT .. on the other hand.. is a big time buy in my opinion. Their market space will be (is) fiber optics, total end-to-end systems, system implementation/integration and wireless (very big player in this arena). They will *maybe* make major inroads into the low/mid end router market with their software offering. And don't forget.. NT, through Clarify (how I got involved with NT in the first place), has the number #2 CRM and e-CRM product out there. Oracle is a distant 3rd or 4th in the CRM space (Siebel #1, Clarify/NT #2, Vantive/Psft #3 and then Oracle followed by a pack of mid range vendors). Roth has stated that software is Nortel's next major target. i.e. Adding value to the network.