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To: 2MAR$ who wrote (31702)	9/28/2000 11:28:52 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Because of the nature of history, many noble and marvellous people are not known to us today. Some that are, were not necessarily the best of their kind. The burnings of the Alexandrian library were vicious acts that have deprived us of so much wisdom. I believe that most of the "gospel" history of Jesus was invented by rather poor writers. Matthew, in particular, was guilty of the most obvious dishonesty. There is too much silence in history to grant much veracity of the scriptures (example, Josepus hated Herod and took every opportunity of condemning him for one thing after another. Yet Josephus knows nothing of Herod's infanticide for all children under 2 years old). The gospel writers know nothing about it. The parents knew nothing about it. Can you imagine the grieving, the anger, the appeals and submissions to Rome that ought to have occurred? Yet, only Matthew knew about the murder of a whole nation of innocents. Those were days of agony and despair for a Nation whose only hope was supernatural intervention. A nation being subjugated, abused, and trampled. Many Messiahs appeared. Many were crucified or killed by other means. There were many sects, many beliefs. History tells us that the Christian sect won out. It had to be somebody. The gospel writers did not know Jesus, and their writing is full of contradictions--even after hundreds of years of church corrections (take the justification for the trinty as an example, that was taken out of John, then put back in). Jesus appears as a composite that represents beliefs from a lot of historical sources. There were a lot of people named Jesus. Did one of them stand taller than the rest? Perhaps. I remember Herbert Spencer writing some excellent stuff about religion and science both having validity and needing to respect one another. I'll try to find something on the web.

To: 2MAR$ who wrote (31702)	9/29/2000 12:34:39 PM
From: O'Hara	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

†...My friend,2Mar$...† You wrote speaking of The LORD Jesus Christ. when it came to sharing his visions....that he was a man and was on "the path", can be proven for we are all on the same road. It is the crux of reality , that life is a river He didn't share His vision...He told of the Kingdom of God. He warned against worshipping other gods. He informed as to the only way to heaven was through Him. He was not a man as you say "on the path".... He, the LORD Jesus Christ, God in the Flesh... was that path! And, He the LORD Jesus Christ God in the flesh..,still is that path.! † The crux of reality is not as you have said, But the crux of reality is the Cross of Jesus the Christ, LORD and Saviour of the world...God in the flesh!!!† You also wrote: You'll find Jesus most living and wandering alone in the desert or traveling with other monks and rebels in the hills around the sea of galilea...same as it was for Mohammed who was a merchant going between Mecca and Baghdad (?) spent many days & weeks alone, meditating in the desert thru the years . The word of God does not speak of monks and rebels walking with The LORD Jesus Christ. He walked with His disciples, and crowds followed Him just to hear Him and worship Him. And as for any comparison to Mohammed....There is none! The LORD Jesus Christ is Saviour of the world... sent by God to a wretched world full of sin and destruction. And any one who believes in Him...The LORD Jesus Christ, God in the flesh... will be saved!! Mohammed is dead..... Jesus the Christ is Alive!!† You also wrote speaking of My LORD Jesus the Christ: He must have been planning for sometime to go out in a Blaze of Martyred glory The LORD Jesus Christ as God Himself in the flesh, did in fact know, that the only way to save this dying wretched world from going straight to hell, was to offer Himself as a perfect sacrifice....for you.... and for me... and for all.. who would accept Him and His most perfect sacrifice.! Only He was worthy to make that offer.!! Another wrong you wrote: it was a week later he was rejected, betrayed and crucified as an insignificant country "prophet" Mohammed and others have died as insignificant "prophets". The LORD Jesus Christ was sacrificed and known by all as KING of the Jews!! This inscription was ordered by Pilate himself. But Pilate himself did not realize the entire KINGDOM Jesus the LORD reigned over.!! I know that now he does!! And all praise, honor, and glory be unto Him!!† I know that now he does!! And someday you too will. But not just you.! The entire world will, Some sooner than others. And some, when it is too late. Have a good day 2Mar$, and may the blessings of God and the knowledge of the LORD Jesus Christ come upon you. Shalom...><>