To: bonnuss_in_austin who wrote (33020 ) 10/1/2000 5:07:26 PM From: elpolvo Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 35685 bonita- re: your PM US vs. Canadian values is NOT what i was referring to in my post to Tom. the deep south does seem to have (generally speaking) a value system that appears somewhat more rigid than other parts of this country and much of the world when it comes to perceived roles and expected conduct for men, women, children, families, pets, etc. :-) mexico is similar and i expect some other countries or geographic locations may even be more rigid than the deep south. - doesn't mean i don't love the people there - i do. i don't take it as my job to try to change other people's values via education and debate. my small contribution (if it can even be considered a contribution)is just to act according to my OWN personal values (and occasionally clarify them when misunderstandings arise). i'm a "loner" when it comes to personal values - i guess that's why they're called personal. i feel that i have more power and effectiveness in pursuit of my own personal agenda if i maintain cordial relations with as many people as possible. having awareness of differing social values allows me to adjust my behavior and harmonize better with people. i walk the razor's edge trying not to offend permanently. often i offend unintentionally (that hurts, but only my ego which often needs a beating anyway), sometimes i offend intentionally (that also hurts but there is a place for it - knowing when it's right and having the courage to speak is the hard part). my ultimate personal agenda if you're curious, is to facilitate the joy, happiness and evolution of myself and all living and non-living things. offending people rarely helps me toward that end. maintaining love and friendship between myself and TOM is just as important to me as is maintaining love and friendship between myself and YOU. if either he or you wants to lessen that relationship because you don't agree with my values or my agenda that would be his choice or yours, not mine, and it would not necessarily stop the flow of friendship and love from me. i hope that answers your questions. love, el polvo (the dust) (i post this on the thread rather than PM because i see the thread as a place where people come to read the thoughts and personal conversations of others. i don't see this thread as a public mall where people are shopping for stock information - that would be the WSJ or similar publications. this post is to YOU and anyone reading it should keep that in mind before, during, and after reading it. it's shared publicly so that others can see my thoughts when i converse with you. i think that anyone who reads these threads should expect to read things that may be a little more personal and intense than conversations they might they might normally overhear in public. those who do not like what they find in other people's minds are free to ignore posts that are not addressed to them - for that matter, they are free to ignore posts that ARE directed to them.) JMHO