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To: Elmer who wrote (111971)10/1/2000 12:44:24 AM
From: Jim McMannis  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
EP,
RE:"The problem is spelled "RamBus""

That's an understatement....

Just look at Intels tomfoolery in its chipsets....

1. BX- Probably the best they ever made...uses SDRAM
2. i810 uses SDRAM...integrated...works well
3. i815...uses SDRAM but developed after i820 and i840
(the higher the number the better? NOT!
4. i820 uses Rambus, problem with SDRAM MTH---a bust.
limited to two sticks of Rambus...
5. i840 uses Rambus and is dual channel so can use 4
sticks of Rambus. Expensive- a semi-bust
6. i850- again uses Rambus, delayed because of MTH...
a bust because it cripples the P4...
7. Timna integrated chip...originally used Rambus...delayed because of it and misses window of opportunity while trying to get the MTH to work with SDRAM...

I guess the higher numbers afforded the name of the Rambus chipsets didn't help, uh?

So who at Intel was responsible for Rambus?

Another cautionary thing...
Seems this MTH (memory translator hub) has been a problem, one way or another, in every chipset that Intel has originally designed to run with RAMBUS...
Who is to say the i850-Tehama MTH doesn't become a longer term problem? After all it helped scrub Timna and has caused major headaches in the i820 and probably the i840...

Jim



To: Elmer who wrote (111971)10/1/2000 12:07:09 PM
From: Road Walker  Respond to of 186894
 
Elmer,

re:

"No MTH killed it.
The problem is spelled "RamBus"


That's what I meant when I said "I would like to see if they are pi$$ed off at themselves, or are blaming outside stuff for their recent problems.". Rambus is not a Rambus problem, its an Intel management problem, same with MTH.

Intel needs to turn their paranoia inward, they have been their own worst enemy. Every company makes bad decisions, the good companies recognize their mistake quickly and cut their losses.

John