To: justone who wrote (8697 ) 10/1/2000 2:46:24 PM From: axial Respond to of 12823 Hi, justone;'2) fiber comes down so low it is cheaper to run it to a building than to replace t1 equipment with HDLS' I've been one of those who agree this option will come, and my guess for the timeframe was the same as yours: about five years. The more I look at the matter, the more unlikely it becomes. If I may make an unrelated comparison, it reminds me of the fifteen year-old idea that a vaccine would eliminate AIDS. Yes, it would: but today, we still have no vaccine. There are many related issues that must be resolved, too. What about telephony over fiber: never mind the QOS issues, how do you power the handset? Maybe the best solution is to go wireless over an indoor LAN, and port it to fiber. Then there's the whole mix of switching issues, and IP issues: integration with the larger network. PONs seem like a good, cost-effective idea, but their application to a large, tall building with a lot of high-capacity usage is doubtful, if only because of the aggregate distance and usage in the longest runs. I'm not quarreling with your proposition; I hope you're right. I guess it's just a restatement of the old 'devil is in the details' argument. Maybe we're trying to paint the picture with just one 'brush' when in fact many 'brushes' will be needed. Maybe there is market segmentation here that we're just not addressing. Your point, 'the only application I see needing high bandwidth is point to point video- that might require a tripling of 'voice' capacity. At that point fiber may be needed.' is well taken, but I thought that fiber was also contemplated where just the sheer volume of traffic (ie., brokerages, data storage facilities) was a problem. Is this not the case? Frank, I'm sure, could do this subject justice. Regards, Jim