To: Thehammer who wrote (42253 ) 10/4/2000 12:47:34 AM From: Mr. Whist Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670 Re: "What was your take on the debates?" To answer your question: I scribbled some notes while watching the debate. Bottom line: Not much is going to change. Those leaning to Bush will now likely vote Bush; those leaning Gore now likely will vote Gore. That's always the case when neither side does anything stupid. The main question, in my opinion, perhaps is whether there are enough independent votes left for Bush to pick up to win this thing, given the fact that N.Y. and California already are in Gore's camp. Gore dominated the time and usually got the last word in, but that didn't necessarily hurt Bush. Bush didn't press Gore hard enough on the topic of energy/oil. Bush waffled on abortion. Gore scored some points by tying in the Supreme Court appointments with Roe v. Wade. I didn't quite get what Bush was saying when he said he wanted the Russians to intervene in Serbia. (Is that what we want to do there?) I think Gore could have hammered him a little bit there. I liked Bush's use of terms such as "phony numbers" and "fuzzy math." Sounds like something I'd use to rebut one of Michael Cummings' less-than-truthful arguments. I think it was interesting that both of Gore's school examples involved real people in Florida ... emphasis on Florida ... 25 electoral votes ... Kaylie doesn't have a desk in her 36-student science class. Bush was probably smart to mention Powell and Schwartzkopf once. Gore could have made more noise on seniors who have to decide between drugs and food other than the example he used of the Iowa woman and her poodle. Bush did not use the term "education recession." Perhaps he's saving that for a later debate. Or maybe his handlers told him not to go there. Bush also stayed away from vouchers. Hopefully, someone at one of the next debates will pin him down on that, because I am very interested to see how committed he is to vouchers. Gore was criticized on this board for his closing statement. But, by the same token, Dubya almost had me crying when he said all he could do for the flood victim was "put my arms around him and cry with him." Uh, George, a little disaster aid also would have come in handy. I also watched a good piece of the focus groups afterward. Did some channel surfing. That was as enlightening as the debates, to a certain extent, because it reinforced what I have long suspect: GOP = white suburbia. Dems = everyone else.