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To: Road Walker who wrote (112442)	10/4/2000 5:49:16 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

OT There are better debates every day on these threads, these guys were afraid to say what they thought. What happened to candidates that had real personal convictions? Because strongly stated convictions can alienate some posible constituents. If I was running for president and was debating Bush or Gore I probably make some strong statement that causes too many people to decide that they will never vote for me thus ruining my chances of getting elected. Bush and Gore are good politicans, they will avoid making that mistake even if it does make the debates less honest and less interesting. Tim

To: Road Walker who wrote (112442)	10/4/2000 6:00:20 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

RE:"Bush/Gore/Bush/Gore. It doesn't matter. Neither of these guys has any conviction, each will say whatever it takes to get elected, and will not say anything that their market research teams figure could cost them votes. You are watching two competing marketing campaigns, may the best campaign manager and actor win. You are being manipulated, and you are falling for it. There are better debates every day on these threads, these guys were afraid to say what they thought. What happened to candidates that had real personal convictions? In the local political ads, they no longer mention if they are a Democrat or a Republican. Why? Because they are going for the maximum votes, and they know that a party association may cost them votes, versus their marketing message which (hopefully) will get them votes. It's a pathetic joke." Of course you are right but what can we do about it? Neither will ever tell it like it is...that means offending voters... JIm