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To: David Howe who wrote (50681)	10/5/2000 1:12:11 PM
From: JC Jaros	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

LOL! --- You've made the case for PCs using 'photos of your kids desktop' and 'Flight Simulator' local execution? --- I don't know where this 'mainframe' stuff comes from. --- I use a crude, low bandwidth dumb terminal to access Unix services remotely. I've never had this much freedom; this much control of my environment. --- I keep the photo of my kids in a frame (which I never need to reboot). -JCJ

To: David Howe who wrote (50681)	10/5/2000 2:04:51 PM
From: DiViT	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

"behemoth? Have you seen PCs these days? They aren't much bigger than a keyboard and a monitor" - David Howe "I use a crude, low bandwidth dumb terminal to access Unix services remotely" - JC Jaros Unless it's in that Dell catalog that JC been looking at he's probably not seen the newer PC's. His crude, low bandwidth dumb terminal probably won't let him see graphics. Speaking of small PC's, here's one that is smaller than a keyboard: saintsong.com.tw (What is JC doing with a Dell catalog anyway? Is he looking to buy a PC?)

To: David Howe who wrote (50681)	10/5/2000 4:51:48 PM
From: Charles Tutt	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74651

Freedom: If Flight Simulator works better when installed locally, that's a PERFORMANCE issue, not a freedom issue; this particular one has little to do with whether a local disk is available, but I will grant that some performance issues will require "thicker" hardware. Thin clients also allow the ability to control your computing environment, perhaps moreso than PC's (e.g. your "computing environment" might allow mobility without carrying around more than a credit-card sized access control device). Privacy: I'm not saying you have to put resumes and that kind of thing on your EMPLOYER'S machine (that probably wouldn't be an appropriate use of his resources anyway) -- but it could be on an ASP, e.g. Privacy and security overlap. It isn't private if it isn't secure, and vice versa. Your employer might want to have a voice in how secure you keep HIS files. If I were you, I'm not sure I'd argue that the spreading of viruses on your current (presumably Windows based) work system is a point in favor of continuing that model. Not saving your list of investments on your employer's machine does not necessarily imply you must save it on your own PC, as discussed above re resumes. If you're already using networked storage, the camel's nose is already in the tent -- obviously somebody recognized the value in that way of doing things, so carry it to its logical conclusion. As for behemoths, everything is relative. Maybe you're ALREADY using "thin clients" and just refuse to recognize them as such. <g> You DON'T always get what you pay for. JMHO. Charles Tutt (TM) P.S. Thanks for staying calm through this. I think (hope?) the issues are being exposed a lot more fruitfully talking to you this way than they are in the kind of thread that is largely hyperbole with smatterings of namecalling. On the other hand, once the issues are exposed thoroughly, I'll probably drop away -- I think everybody will make their own decisions regardless of what I say past that point, and some have already decided as a matter of religious faith.