To: Teresa Lo who wrote (82789 ) 10/9/2000 6:43:23 PM From: Maurice Winn Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 152472 <I was thinking that in order to build a long term investment in a company, one would have to build it over a period of time, rather than do it all at once, > Not if one is a small fry like me. My little Tonka Truck fills in one day without disrupting the market too seriously. I waited years for Q! after knowing I wanted to buy it. I missed by one day in 1992 the all-time low of $13.30 [no splits] because I told the broker I'd go back in the morning to buy, but first I wanted to visit the company. Next morning, the price had gone to $19, so I figured I better wait and see what happened rather than pay 50% more. So yes, after realizing I want to buy, I wait until the sellers are in a funk. Buying from people who are 'selling at the top' isn't my aim. That always seems risky, because it implies that there are lots of people who don't recognize the company's value and that they'll sell it cheaper later [even though I think it's already cheap]. That means I expect markets to be highly inefficient. Which they continue to be, fortunately for me. The rewards go to those with the correct long view based on company prospects, the patience to buy in a funk and the gumption to hold through subsequent funks. The pure TA people don't seem to care about the real world effects of a company but they just try to model herd behaviour [including their own and other computer or other models]. The mistake TA people seem to me to make is that they don't realize that models have replaced a lot of minds [or emotions] so their TA is tracking herds of models, not humans. And those models are hunting them!! So it is like model-war and the smartest model will win. Those models, including their own, distort the very thing they are trying to predict. A bit like Heisenberg's uncertainty principle - your actions change the very thing you try to measure and predict. A most extreme example would be the guy who decided a particular company was great. So he bought. Next day, he noticed the price was higher. So he figured things were going well and bought more. Next day, his TA showed continuing momo so he piled in more and the price kept rising. He could leverage further purchases on the increasing value of his shares, so he was having a LOT of fun. Eventually, he reached his limit. He saw an even higher quote the next day, so decided to take his profits. He phoned the broker and told him to sell the lot! The broker said "Who to? You were the only one buying!" So, figure out a good company, then buy when the models and people are in a funk. Mqurice