To: Dan3 who wrote (57227 ) 10/9/2000 8:25:02 PM From: Zeev Hed Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93625 Dan, I don't know how much actual IP work you have done. I make a living selling my own IP. Most licensing agreements always include a clause relating to "future developments" including "joint developments" that are directly related to the technology licensed. That clause has many forms, but typically it states that the license will cover such furture developments (without increasing the royalties rate, but extending the life to the expiration date of new patents, for instance). Typically a license would be limited to a "field of use", for instance DRDRAM, and not cover other fields of use (for instance DDR DRAM), the licensor and the licensee can then jointly develop additional technology, and that would be part of the licensed technology. Many times, the original licensor will retain the rights to license such additional development to others. Sometime, they do not. If the licensee feels he has developments that do not relate to the support he got from the licensor, believe me, he'll know how to protect its own IP. None of this is operative here, and all these innuendos that RMBS steals IP from the poor Dramurai, is a neat diversion, but nothing more. RMBS got its basic application in the patent office, long before SDRAM was even a twinkle in the eyes of JEDEC and the DRAM industry. Up to the peak of 1995, the Dramurai were too busty raking the money in. If you tell me that those guys licensed DRDRAM (most of the defendents are DRDRAM licensees) and did not read the basic patents with the disclosure of in essence essential elements of the DDR and SDRAM technology, all I can say is that the Dramurai will have a crude awakening for having such weak IP departments. Licensing patents without reading them, that is a good enough cause to get fired, would you not say? Zeev