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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (1891)10/9/2000 10:20:00 PM
From: puborectalis  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10042
 
Talk about unfair tax codes,,,,,,,Giant Cisco Didn't Pay Any Federal Income Tax
Businesses get break on employee stock options
Kathleen Pender, Chronicle Staff Writer Monday, October 9, 2000

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SAN JOSE -- Cisco Systems, the second-most valuable company in America, paid no federal income taxes for its latest fiscal year thanks to a little-known corporate tax break on employee stock options.

Microsoft, which ranks No. 4 in market value, did not pay any federal taxes either, it seems.

Like many high-tech firms, Cisco and Microsoft are allowed to take a tax deduction for money their employees earn when they ``exercise'' options and buy stock in the company at a preset price.

These options have become an increasingly popular way for businesses to reward employees, but they also have huge benefits to the companies themselves.

The tax break was established decades ago, when companies doled out stock options to only a handful of top executives and the tax benefit they generated was minimal.

But now that many companies -- including Cisco, Microsoft and most other new-economy firms -- give options to everyone, the tax break is becoming enormous.

In Cisco's case, this benefit wiped out $1.8 billion in federal taxes, and probably more than twice that for Microsoft.

Some people, even those who oppose taxes, think it is unfair that wealthy companies paid none to Uncle Sam.

For the fiscal year ended July 31, Cisco had $23 billion in sales last year, $2.7 billion in net income, and its almost $400 billion market value is exceeded only by General Electric's.

``For a company that makes that kind of money not to pay taxes raises serious tax-equity questions,'' said Jon Coupal, president of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association.

He also said he believes it is ``hypocritical'' for Cisco to take this ``massive tax break'' and at the same time support Proposition 39, which would make it easier to raise property taxes on California homeowners. Prop 39 would allow local school bonds to be approved by a vote of 55 percent instead of the current two-thirds.

ENTITLED TO DEDUCTION

Cisco is entitled to a deduction for stock option income because ``in reality, that's compensation,'' and tax law has always treated employee compensation as a deductible expense, said Dennis Powell, Cisco's corporate controller.

When an employee exercises an option to buy stock, the difference between the strike price (what the employee pays) and the market price (which is almost always higher) becomes taxable income for the employee and a tax deduction for the employer.

Most Americans do not realize how enormous this tax break has become, because companies do not deduct employee stock options from the earnings they report to shareholders and the public. In fact, American companies fought long and hard to prevent employee stock options from showing up as an expense on their income statements, although they are happy to consider them as an expense for income tax purposes.

Cisco's and Microsoft's annual reports make it appear as if they had paid billions of dollars in income taxes.

Cisco's income statement for fiscal 2000, which was published about a week ago, shows net income before taxes of $4.34 billion, and a provision for income taxes of $1.67 billion.

That number includes federal, state, foreign and deferred taxes. The firm's actual federal tax liability, buried deep in the report, was $1.8 billion.

But in reality, the San Jose maker of computer networking gear paid no federal income taxes for fiscal 2000.

That is because its employees earned more than $7 billion exercising stock options in fiscal 2000. That $7-plus billion deduction generated a $2.5 billion tax benefit for Cisco, which wiped out its entire federal tax liability. The benefit shows up on Cisco's cash flow statement.

STOCK OPTIONS EXERCISED

Cisco employees exercised ``an unusually large number'' of stock options during fiscal 2000, mainly because the company's stock price more than doubled, said Cisco's Powell.

By comparison, Cisco's tax benefit from employee stock options was only $837 million in 1999 and $422 million in 1998.

Unlike Cisco, which acknowledges that it paid no federal income taxes, a Microsoft spokeswoman would not say whether that firm did or not.

But its annual report for fiscal 2000, which ended June 30, shows stock option income tax benefits of $5.5 billion, exceeding its $4.85 billion provision for income taxes. (Its actual federal and state tax liability for 2000 was $4.74 billion.)

``I'd say their federal income tax was next to nothing or probably nothing,'' said Robert Willens, a tax and accounting analyst with Lehman Brothers in New York.

Willens said another company that will be wiping out its federal tax liability is Seagate, which is undergoing a complicated leveraged buyout.

SHAREHOLDERS GET REMAINDER

When the deal is completed, ``all of Seagate's options have to be exercised. The tax deduction they're going to get is so large, it will wipe out their income for the year of the merger,'' with some left over, he said. The remainder will be passed on to Seagate shareholders as a tax-refund right.

Companies do not pay anything for stock options, at least not in the traditional sense. The real cost is borne by shareholders.

That is because stock options increase a company's shares outstanding, which reduces earnings per share. All other things being equal, that will lower the company's stock price unless earnings rise enough to compensate for the additional shares.

Theoretically, employees with stock options will want to do everything they can to increase earnings, since they are also shareholders who will benefit if the stock price rises.

``Shareholders have decided they want to share some money with employees to provide an incentive'' to increase earnings, said Powell.



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (1891)10/9/2000 10:21:36 PM
From: Slugger  Respond to of 10042
 
Bush Surges Ahead of Gore in New Poll

Monday, October 9, 2000


Texas Gov. George W. Bush has surged to an eight point lead
over Vice President Al Gore in a new poll.

A CNN-USA Today-Gallup poll
released Sunday showed Bush with
49 percent to Gore's 41 percent
among 769 likely voters. It was the
largest margin for Bush in this poll
since the Republican National
Convention in Philadelphia.

Gore led Bush by 11 points in this poll
as recently as last week.

Other Polls Show Dead Heat

In a Voter.com-Battleground survey of
1,000 likely voters, Bush leads 43
percent to Gore's 41 percent — a
dead heat based on the 3.1 percent
margin of error. Ralph Nader scored 4
percent and Pat Buchanan 1 percent,
while 11 percent were undecided.

The results of the Voter.com poll were
similar to those of a Fox News/Opinion
Dynamics poll released Friday of 900
likely voters that showed a dead heat
as well, with Gore leading Bush by a
statistically insignificant 45 percent to 43 percent.

A Reuters/MSNBC sampling of 1,208
likely voters by pollster John Zogby
showed that with 29 days to go before
the Nov. 7 election, Gore leads Bush
43 percent to 42 percent.

Gore's advantage was within the poll's
margin of error of plus or minus 3
percentage points.

"The race for president between
Democratic nominee Al Gore and
Republican George W. Bush is now
deadlocked," pollster Zogby said.

He added that the "most ominous sign for Gore is that this is the first
time since the tracking survey began that he has gone below 44
percent, although Bush has yet to capitalize."

Gore lost ground as Republicans pressed an aggressive attack on
the vice president for allegedly embellishing his record and also
pushed Bush's promise of a sweeping tax cut.

Trying to change the subject from the embellishment allegations,
Democrats were poised to launch a coordinated negative attack
Monday on Bush's record as Texas governor.

As Gore spent time in Sarasota, Fla., preparing for the next
presidential debate, his campaign was set to announce details of the
attack on Bush's record on health care, the environment and gun
control.

— Reuters contributed to this report

foxnews.com



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (1891)10/10/2000 1:32:05 AM
From: Dayuhan  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 10042
 
I'm not sure I follow any reasoning concluding that lying about a blow job is worse than lying about sending arms to one of our worst enemies (in direct contravention of the long-standing policy against ransom payments) and using the proceeds to support the dope-peddling troglodyte remnants of one of the most repressive regimes in Latin American history, simply because the latter case involves matters of national security. To me the latter case is worse precisely because it involved matters of national security, and a deliberate attempt to evade law and established policy.

But the point was that Ronald Reagan was never caught "red-handed" with irrefutable evidence that he lied under oath.

Was that because he didn't lie, or because nobody pressed the questioning to that point? I personally feel that complaining about a politician lying is a bit like complaining about rain during a Seattle November, and I have a hard time getting very upset about political lies. I agree that Clinton should have told the truth, but only because lying under those circumstances was dumb, not because it was wrong. He should have just said something on the order of "I did it. So what. Let that one of you who is without sin cast the first stone".

I also don't think anybody should have asked about it, especially not under oath. Happenings between consenting adults are not normally matters for Congressional investigation (if they were, our history and the Congressional Record would be very interesting); they were elevated to that state only because the opposition was feeling the pinch of an economic boom and having a hard time finding issues. It all seems very superfluous to me, though I'm not very fond of Mr. Clinton.