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To: combjelly who wrote (125683)	10/10/2000 4:31:50 PM
From: Joe NYC	Respond to of 1570736

combjelly, if you could get Usenet access in the pre-1990 period, you were lucky I am not going to argue about the history of Internet, but I did have access to Usenet newsgroups pre 1990 through a local BBS, that was subscription based. Joe

To: combjelly who wrote (125683)	10/11/2000 10:43:03 AM
From: pgerassi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1570736

Dear Combjelly: You mean that before 1990, if you had 1) A UNIX machine or any PC say a 386 running DOS with TCP software (this I know was available). 2) A company or government agency that was already on the network (ie, know a system administrator of a system on the usenet). You could not purchase access by phone line to a dial up modem (300 to 1200 baud)(especially to a private company)? Would you pay for a permanent connection (private line either 56k DDS or 4 wire modem)? If the later was not to be had and I do believe that at that time there were people who got it this way and some used the fact that their UNIX system had (at least) one other modem so that it extended usenet to more places. This is how uunet expanded and many others. I forget when EXEC-PC started here in Milwaukee but, I thought that they were selling access to uunet before 1990. He connected each dial-up connection to its own PC on his internal ethernet and used a SUN box as the router to the uunet. It was run at that time as a BBS. The options were for file sharing, downloading software, uunet telnet sessions, wiscnet connection to get telnet to education institutions, news service, and of course e-mail. Since he had one of the largest collections of files anywhere, his business grew very rapidly (perhaps that is why he got access to the internets of the time (lots of available on-line storage)). BTW how much was a computer related local education institution similar to MATC (a local government run technical college to upgrade skills for skilled labor, allow getting GED high school diplomas, etc.). Then get dial up access as a student to their CPU and thus to the net. I used this method although, I did always had a back door via my father who is a professor at MSOE (Milwaukee School of Engineering). Pete