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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: cosmicforce who wrote (2021)10/10/2000 4:36:43 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10042
 
If you take the Amendment to mean what you claim, that the people should be able to possess the arms of the day so as to repel an army, then it simply doesn't mean that now if you limit it to rifles and pistols. There is no way a bunch of armed freedom fighters could regain control of an evil government. In a no holds barred conflict, the citizenry will lose massively if only armed with pistols and rifles.

You might be surprised. Yes if you take ten or twenty thousand men armed with rifles and put them in the field against an armoured divison they will lose. However gurilla warefare is quite possible. All of this doesn't even consider that if the US was just becomeing totalitarian or authoritarian the military might not totally back the change. If much of the US military either stayed out of it
or was very reluctant in attempts to put down rebellion then armed resistance would have a much higher chance of sucess.

So trying to put this into that context is not proper. Nor, is it, IMO, advisable. Very few countries have the weaponry we do in the hands of citizens. Are you suggesting that that is the reason for our freedom? I don't think so.

I believe it is both proper and adviseable. I think having the guns itself part of our freedom, and it does help
provide some protections for the other aspects of our freedom. Further if the people do really want to get rid of
guns and the government tries to do it they should not do so in an illegal fashion. The constitution is the highest law in the US and if the government acts in unconstituional ways
then it is acting illegally. When governments feel they can rutinely violate the law then none of our legal or constitutional protections are worth the paper they are written on.

Tim



To: cosmicforce who wrote (2021)10/10/2000 11:09:33 PM
From: long-gone  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10042
 
<<The framers did not envision cruise missiles>>

I take it you have never read Jefferson in depth - He had in mind those weapons required for us to overthrow a repressive government every so often.