To: Greg or e who wrote (1561 ) 10/11/2000 7:17:06 PM From: Dayuhan Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931 I am simply obliged to share as one beggar to another, where the bread is. I'm sorry if you find that offensive If you could understand that I am neither hungry nor begging, you could gnaw your crust in peace and leave me alone. But you can't accept that I am neither hungry nor begging, because your book tells you that I am a hungry beggar. Most people do not like to hear, even from a doctor, that they have cancer. Sin is like cancer (we all have it) and unless it is dealt with it is deadly. How selfish and unloving of me, would it be to see a tumor growing on your forehead, and pretend that it wasn't there because it might offend you? How much more, if I recently had just such a tumor removed, but refused to share with you the name and address of the only doctor able to do the procedure? All I can do is tell you to go look in the mirror (Bible) for yourself, and tell You the doctors name,(JESUS). If you choose not to you have that right but you still have to live (or die) with the cancer. A tumor is an empirically verifiable entity. If a doctor told me I had a tumor, a biopsy would verify that claim. Surgery might be recommended, or chemotherapy, or radiation. All of these recommendations are based on empirical observation, all have established records of efficacy in certain situations. The only evidence you have that sin is omnipresent and deadly, that Jesus is the Doctor, that the Bible is the mirror, is your book. The credibility of this book is based solely on your word. Sorry, but you're singing the same little ditty again. The idea that morality cannot be legislated is ,I'm sorry, absurd. I never said that morality couldn't be legislated. Law is simply society's imposition of morality on itself. Morality, law, and - in my opinion - religion are all outgrowths of human experience of what is expedient for a social group, and of attempts to convince or coerce individuals to place collective expedience before individual expedience. homosexuals want to have their views taught to all children in the public school classrooms, and atheists want religious influence excluded from public life. All of this is being done by passing laws that limit freedom of religion, freedom of speech... I do not see how excluding religion from public life or acknowledging the existence and humanity of homosexuals limits your freedom of religion or speech.