To: Ken Benes who wrote (59728 ) 10/13/2000 3:08:49 AM From: d:oug Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116756 Ken, Everything you have said about the gold producers being their own worst enemy may become very apparent in the next days or few weeks if an escalation of the terrible events occures. That which I am plugged into forecasts events using means and methods not of the mainstream, and at present the status is that the situation is under the control of those who do not want the peace path route that has been in the news these past months and years. Those I speak about are contained in both sides of the present conflict in the Middle East. Sad to say, but the analysis has always resulted in either a never ending conflict that would reach a harmful level for both sides and never ease up, or that other extremely unthinkable option that I wrote about in a recent past post. For the above opinions to become false would take an event by both sides to acknowledge that control and containment is not available for their ownership, and as such each would have to accept an agreement that would end the violence and at the same time accept a situation that would have a foundation build to increase the ability for extreme violence. A day will arrive that this will happen. It will not be a "good" day, just a less of a "bad" day. Someone once said "Who has the gold rules." If the USA's fiat dollar falls and the price of gold does that GATA predicted explosion, then "Who has the gold?", the physical gold, the most & best form of money, along with resources needed for today's economies, will ..... But back to the gold producers Ken, as hopefully you have membership into Le Metropole Cafe, as the stuff there speaks of a possibility of something that is somewhat already knowned, but not talked about on this thread these days. Its not about Barrick ABX what Bill Murphy talks about, but Barrick ABX is in the same boat as these others, and eventhought Barrick ABX has first class seats and food and drinks on this boat while the others have to sit on empty wood crates and eat rats, when the boat sinks for this situation, all go down, even Barrick ABX. Now as a side point, amazing how its understood by all that all except the Barrick ABX inside cronies, all rest folks know not what Barrick ABX hedging is really about except for what Barrick ABX tells us, and what they say is like the Firestone Tire Company ... alls great and alls under control and alls safe and customer and shareholder positions are JOB 1. Ya, so the d enema told us again today something like 85% of Barrick ABX hedges are completely 100% safe and good for the shareholders. Good Golly 'bowel movement needed', you speak about something you know not of? O I know, you are speaking the Barrick ABX company "line" that says no need to know what we are doing with your investment, so "get lost" and "trust us"[a.k.a Screw You]. And now the Main Event. dougak19 The James Joyce Table Gold, Commodities, Midas du Metropole Topic du Jour October 12 - Middle East Horror / Financial Chaos ... may be a great deal more... behind the scenes from an area that you would never think of. At least, I didn't until the Café's *** pointed it out. It could be a BOMBSHELL [gold price explosion] For as many months as I can remember, the mainstream press has told us that... ... sent me an *** chart today and it is astounding. In recent weeks... ... gold producers to sell forward. If that is the case, it just my be that the gold cabal will be "hoisted on their own petards." Word has begun to circulate quietly that there may be an "Ashanti" brewing in *** ... meaning that the hedge book of a major gold producer(s) is underwater and descending fast..... What if gold rallies to $320 or $370, which it could in a blink? Stay tuned on this one. If... watch out! Or, if an "Ashanti" does develop, it will likely cause a gold buying panic - especially in this environment. ... since the beginning of September. Could that be telling us something is very wrong with the *** gold producer(s)? ... What an irony that would be. How terrible for the shareholders!