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To: Eric Wells who wrote (110467)	10/14/2000 7:17:45 AM
From: Frederick Smart	Respond to of 164685

The World Is Being Set Up..... >>But if you believe that the story is inaccurate, that the explosion did not come from explosives on a small boat, but rather from elsewhere, such as inside the ship, what do you think the motive of the US Navy is in making up such a story? Do you believe the US Government doesn't know the source of the explosion and has mistakenly laid blame on a "terrorist" group? Or do you believe the government does know of the source of the explosion, but is exploiting the incident to incite public hate towards Arabs and Muslims as you suggest? And if you believe this, why would the US Government want to incite such hatred toward Arabs and Muslims? I don't think the US as a whole has any interest in taking Arab land.>> I personally believe the events in the Middle East have all been well planned among a very tight knit group of individuals who all have a vested stake/interest in seeing that forces of negativity and violence dominate political and economic agendas throughout the world. And I'm not "being paranoid" when I share this. I'm simply casually observing and sharing a gut feel for what's happening. Go back over the record of the past 8 years. There's a recurring pattern of these wacky/quirky illogical/irrational acts of terrorism and violence which seem to serve a purpose for being destractive shell games that hide a larger agenda. I'd take a deeper look into those who died. Where they in any way connected to the administration? Is the investigation completely open, transparent, etc? After 8 years, it seems Saddam is back "doing his thing." Arafat is empowered as never before. And even with Miloslevic gone, we did not win many points over there with the way we coddled and catered to him during the Daton accords. And then there's Castro and Elian. And then all these wacky/quirky/suspicious deals and goings on with China, etc. Then all the pumping of billions and billions into Russia on an almost completely hands off basis. The entire basis behind the strength of these Unitied States is grounded in moral, ethical values and principals. Personally speaking, I have witnessed an almost total and complete abrogation of these basic principals that have made us the great country that we are. Clinton has mastered the art of Dualism which is at the core of evil and corruption: playing both sides against the middle. Instead of taking REAL risks based on principals that are grounded in truth and justice, Clinton has placed our country in the position of being a risk sponge. We seem to be right there prevaricating during any/all attempts at standing up for what's right. And then when all hell breaks loose, there we are mopping up AFTER these unfortunate situations of violence errupts. Go back over the Elian situation. We took the low road. Line up all the times we as a country have showcased our principal colors: Waco, Ruby Ridge, Miloslovic, Korea, Saddam, China, Kosovo, Elian, etc. I am deeply troubled, but then again this isn't time to be afraid. It's simply time to take stock. Only INDIVIDUALS can stop the madness of these political machinations of power/control and greed. And the answer is NOT violence. It's LOVE. Peace. GO!!

To: Eric Wells who wrote (110467)	10/14/2000 9:42:22 AM
From: Sarmad Y. Hermiz	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 164685

Eric, You had wrote such a long post, but I imagine the last sentence is what you want me to respond to. >> do you believe there is any possibility that the explosion was caused by a terrorist group - or do you think that such a premise is nonsense? Last night I went back to read all the stories in NY times, CNN, etc.... And watch some news channel coverage. 1- it is amazing how few news items there are. There were more news articles about the Kursk, and that was out of sight under water in siberia. This ship is in plain view in a port. The news is practically non-existent. And they just are quotes from Pentagon officials. It seems that hardly anyone bothered to send a reporter to the area. There is just one photo, and the zoom stops very short of showing much detail. 2- The missing sailors. Not a word about that. Not even "the search is continuing". Look at CNN's top stories for this morning. There is nothing additional. Apparently they have moved on to newer news. 3- Let's say it was a bomb on the small service boat. Apparently there was a "flotilla" of service boats working in the area. If there was a bomb external to the ship, which can nearly destroy a destroyer, how would it not disturb the "flotilla". You'd think that the explosion would radiate in a spherical shape away from the point. Only a small part would hit the destroyer. Most of the shock would be in other directions. An explosion that rips inch thick steel should have destroyed all the other small boats in the area. 4- Did none of the horde of enterprising news-people (who were going after each drop of "dna material" on ML's dress) think of going to the scene and talking the local people there ? Or are they prevented ? Have you seen a single such news item ? 5- The news are now saying it was a 400 pound bomb. Have they seen it ? They should say "the damage is such that a 400 lb bomb must have caused it". And then try to confirm or disprove the hypothesis. I think there is a strong likelihood that there was an external event that caused an internal bomb to explode. But I think the total absense of first-hand reports indicates that all the "news" is coming from one official source, and they are not saying anything of substance. What would it take for a reporter to go to the port and compile reports from people who were present at the time ? They sent reporters to show grieving relatives. Is that where the news is, or in Aden ? To answer your question, I just don't know, and I can see that information regarding this event is being managed very tightly. The fact of the missing sailors is also very puzzling. And the exent of the damage. Described as running all along the length of the ship. I would think an external blast would be mostly absorbed by the shell, and the effect would be muted and decay quickly over a distance. Back to the terrorist group. Yes I think there is a chance. In the same way that anything is possibe. But if a group wanted to blow up a ship, there are many thousands of opportunities every day around the world. They would have to be positioned in that particular port just waiting for this opportunity. Is that part of their mode of operation ? It does not make sense to me. Sarmad