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To: byhiselo who wrote (38410)10/14/2000 7:10:57 PM
From: The Flying Crane  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 57584
 
byhiselo,

Good post. And I agree with your statement that:

>>"the market aberrations/mania of the last 2-3 years aside, to perform better than the majority takes much more work and effort than many realize."<<

The one thing I learned from my early years of losses is that the battle involved in trading is not "me against them" or "them against me"; but instead, me against myself.

As I've mentioned before, IMHO, Greed and Fear played the biggest role in how our decisions were made in relate to our trading methods. How well we put those Greed and Fear under control is depended on how well we exercise our discipline. Without discipline, we are really under the mercy of our emotions.

As to Rande Is thread (or any thread in that matter), IMHO, it should only be a place where you pick up idea on stocks to trade. If Rande Is or anyone posted that they're buying or looking into this or that stock, it would be foolish to just buy without doing any dd of your own.

So, what do you mean by doing your own "dd"?

Perhaps, this is the most misunderstood statement in the chatterlands across the cyberspace... Without any hard data to support my claim, I can only assume (yes, I'm making an "ass" out of "u" and "me") that the definition of "dd" range from:

"Hey, if X says he is buying, I'm buying! H*ll, since X already did the dd, why wasted my time!"

"Hey, X, Y, and Z all said the same thing about this stock, I'm buying!"

"Hmmm, the PR looks interesting, I'm buying!"

"Holy S***!, the price is moving up... must be something happening there, I'm buying!"

"The 10K looked horrible, I'm definitely NOT buying!"

"10K looked horrible, but the potential looks good, I'm buying!"

"My candlestick chart say it's a buy, I'm buying!"

"My dog wagged his tail when I mentioned the stock, must be a cosmic signal, I'm buying!"

"I combed thru all the 10Ks and read all the PRs and I felt sick to my stomach... but everybody in the thread say it was a great buy.... so I bought.... despite my own reluctance..."

"All my TAs confirmed each other, that was my signal to buy."

"I've been following this particular industry for many years, my fundamental analysis say this company will beat out all the others; therefore, I'm buying!"

"The Internet is the future! I've got to buy these beaten down net stocks!"


Need me to go on?

An interesting point about all the "dd" is that no matter how much "dd" you spend on any company, you still cannot predict the future price trend of the company 100%. No matter how many midnight hours you spend on your "dd", you still cannot eliminate the risk completely. There will always be risk.

And because of risk, one must be more concerned with how we deal with risk. Do you take risk for granted? Do you fear it so much you hesitate too much? Unfortunately, being human, our emotions volunteer itself to be our guiding light on risk. Good grief!

So, what is my point in all these rambling....!!?? My point is the same point that I've been trying to say all the times, we must spend more time in developing discipline to control our emotions- namely Greed and Fear. The battle of "me against myself" is the battle of discipline. That is my point.

We all have no one to blame but ourselves when we don't do well in our trading. The big players are not to be blamed. The so-called manipulation (real or not) is not to be blamed. Rande Is is not to be blamed. Lately, any one who read this thread trying to find out what Rande Is' position on the market is like trying to find out which way the wind is blowing on a stormy night where two storms meet each other. If you pay a little more attention, Rande Is seemed to always close his market prediction/comment with a disclaimer such as "[AGAIN it is important to note that I will turn on a dime, should ....]". What did that tell you? IMHO, that despite his "personal bias" toward the tech market, he is as confused as you and me. Can you blame him?

What is to blame is our lack of discipline in cutting our losses FAST. It is our own stubborness, righteousness, greed and fear that are to blame. By all mean, this inner battle is not an easy battle to win. Why do you think only a minority of the player win? The moment anyone decide to trade in the stock market, that is the day you must fight your inner battle in a more compressed time frame. Otherwise, we only need to face our inner battles in a more extended time frame outside the trading arena.

In conclusion, once you decide to look inside yourself instead of outside yourself regarding your current position, rather it be trading or any situation, only then will you begin the path to self-improvement.

If you're still reading here, I appreciate your time and attention. I apologize for such a long post.

All in my opinion only, of course.

BTW: in case some of you forget, below is a disclaimer from Rande Is's subjectmark that should have rendered all the "venting" unnecessary.

"I am a private investor/trader and not a financial advisor. Opinions expressed are my own. Do your own due diligence. Make your own trades. And remember to PROFITOFTEN!"

In other words, my interpretation of Rande's disclaimer is this: I trade the way I trade, it may or may not be the way you trade. So, do your own homework, trade the way you trade that is more comfortable to you. I'm my own man, so should you. Anyone has other interpretation of Rande's disclaimer?



To: byhiselo who wrote (38410)10/14/2000 8:45:10 PM
From: DlphcOracl  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 57584
 
Thoughts on Rande Is, September events, and prior comments:

1. Rande Is did indeed misread September. As I read it, he
called for a 4-day shake at the beginning of the month by
the MM's to drive prices lower, followed by a rally on
high volume when the institutional investors returned
from September.

2. I have had large losses in September by entering the
market too early. I thought the NASDAQ trading range
would be 3500-4300, bought back aggressively at 3400-3500
and had my lunch handed to me.

3. Rande Is is in no way responsible for my losses and no
one on the thread should harbor this sentiment. We are
responsible for our own investment and trading decisions
and it is our responsibility to filter all information we
gather and use accordingly.

4. All of the investors on this thread are susceptible to
large losses because of our investing style. We are, for
the most part, buying technology stocks which are: very
richly priced; small-to-mid-cap; trading aggressively;
looking for and buying small, fledgling companies which
have not established their positions in the market.

Sorry to say it, but this is a normal part of investing in the technology sector. For those who have suffered steep losses or who are spooked by the extreme volatility, he/she should consider: diversifying one's portfolio; trading less often; avoiding those stocks with the steepest valuations (since they are prone to the most rapid and steepest selloffs).

If one looks around, many non-tech stocks have fared as poorly as the tech sector. I do not see fortunes being made buying: airline stocks; retailers; cyclicals; financials. I remain convinced that over the next 5 years, investing heavily in technology stocks will provide the highest returns if one uses a bit of common sense and prudence. Unfortunately, watching one's portfolio periodically lose 30-50% of its value will be the norm for those holding a portfolio of tech stocks. Only advice I can give is that it may be reasonable to greatly reduce or eliminate one's tech stock holdings from mid-March to mid-October.

Caveat emptor.



To: byhiselo who wrote (38410)10/15/2000 12:25:14 AM
From: Rande Is  Respond to of 57584
 
OT> Thanks, AJ And ByHi for the kind words and the summaries.

RE: Brokers posting under the guise of individual investors would violate SEC regs there. . . they would have to change SEC regulation to get away with it. . . >VBG< There is no SINGLE perfect remedy to brokers tracking our boards. . . but run a dozen slight remedies back to back and it makes it nearly impractical for them to attempt to cover every base. I've already said too much.

Suffice it to say that one of the finest features I have built there, is the stealth environment for individual investors. There IS hope.