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To: greenspirit who wrote (46265)10/14/2000 7:29:41 PM
From: PartyTime  Respond to of 769667
 
>>>PartyTime, what you appear to be doing is rationalizing away your name calling as "being fair game", while at the
same time trying to get someone booted for the same thing. Who is to be the judge of "fair game" you?<<<

What's wrong with GOPwinger? Regarding the behavior of jlallen? It's self-explanatory. He insulted me, I asked him to stop and he persisted. I have rights too, you know! You do know that, don't you?

>>>I personally don't like name-calling and try to stay away from it. But at times I know I lapse into it as part of "the
game". The point is, I would never complain to SI about something I have been a part of. That is hypocrisy, no
matter how much you want to pretend otherwise.<<<

Hey, I haven't even called Bush "Shrub." Give me some credit. jlallen's use of the term "PottyTime" is gross, vile and disgusting. You don't think so?

>>>As to New England. I've lived in New England, have friends who live there, many, many relatives and know
something about the state. As to your first point. Democrats have been in charge of New England politics for the better part of 30 years. And Boston Harbor is a disgrace. It should never have been allowed to get that way to begin with. And it wouldn't have unless Democrat (scratch my back, I'll scratch yours) politicians allowed it to happen.<<<

I agree. The pollution we saw never should have been what it became. But, notwithstanding, Democrats controlling New England executive and legislative branches, pollution was rampant all throughout our nation. Democrats noted the problem and introduced legislation to help solve it. Fact is, Republicans resisted these environmental initiatives. And the most telling fact is the air we breathe today, which is cleaner. Bush is old-school Grand Oil Party type politics. Gore seems better fit to lead our nation and will have a better grasp of the extremely important technology issues which greet us every day with something new. I want a president who'll recognize what's worthwhile. Bush will not.

>>>As to your belief that the clean environment is solely do to Democratic politicians. The environmental cleanliness
has more to do with our nations shift from industrial factories to the information age, then anything else. Along with our greater wealth.

These two factors, have far more to do with the environmental state of our nation today than
anything else. When a nation grows it's wealth, it can afford to place higher restrictions on emissions and so forth.<<<

I agree, we've shifted into Phase Two of the Information Age, and that's helped. But I think you've got look real good at the environmental improvements which have been achieved via legislation sponsored by Democrats. How can you ignore this? Here's a challenge: Name me one Republican who checked in on day one of the first Earth Day! Regarding your last point, above, you and I have a right to breathe more than someone else has a right to money.

>>>Additionally, Reagan lowering the tax rate from over 70% to 30%, created the environment around which our businesses have flourished in the last two decades. Thank God he took over, after Jimmy Carter and the 30 year entrenched congress got us into the mess we were were in. Additionally, businesses are much more sensitive to the environment today, because they realize it's good business to be seen as community steward.<<<

Well, that just leads up to the debt thing, doesn't it. Frankly, I don't wanna read no more lips!

>>>Loads of young people have moved from the Boston suburbs to Seattle. And if you have lived in Boston for the last 10 years, you would know this. The fact that you deny it, demonstrates how willing you are to put your head in the sand and defend whatever Democratic spin you want to put out.<<<

Michael, all I did was ask you to prove this? And since you've got 'em now living in Seattle--how many?

>>>High taxation rates have driven many young people to move. There have even been stories in the Boston Globe describing the problem. But I'm not about to go on a search mission to defend what is obvious.

Recently, (the last 2-3 years) things have begun to improve again in the Boston economy. But the taxation rate is still forcing many middle class people to flee to other areas. The rich are doing well, but the middle class are struggling and looking for answers. Sadly, many find the answer of moving more appealing than staying.<<<

A statewide referendum ended rent control, causing housing prices to skyrocket. People will move to find more acceptable rents. That Boston and Seattle would have a high tech exchange program (for lack of a better term) is not surprising given the high tech growth which has happened in the Seattle area. Yes, some folks moved from Mass to New Hampshire on the tax issue. However, once they got there, they got blasted big-time by very, very high local property taxes. How come? Because the courts ordered that the state couldn't skimp on education. One way or another, whether through sin taxes or whatnot, citizens are gonna pay for the services needed within their respective communities.

Bottom line is Massachusetts is fine and well. You wanna save money? Stop the fraudulent Drug War and start spending that money on education. Reagan and Bush--and Clinton wasn't helpful either--have caused America, a land which prides itself on liberty--to build prisons instead of schools. And that's more disgusting than "PottyTime!"