To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (59809 ) 10/15/2000 1:08:00 AM From: d:oug Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116762 Joel, Your thanks to RareBird for his in depth response is correct. To complete the path you have taken to get a handle on the current gold markets so that you can with care and as high as possible safety invest into gold producers, you will need to view an opinion of another that has a story different than RareBird's. Not to do so will only allow a single angle of understanding of the gold picture, and it is indeed 3 dimensional and many views of this same object can present a completely different representation to the point that the front view may result in a positive impression, while the back view shows danger. My way of thinking is that if something at the same time can exist in two different modes, then something is very wrong and caution is needed. We all know that a sweet & sour food can be eaten, as we know that it is not a single food but a combination. But if you hear that for example Barrick ABX is at the same time safe and not safe because of its hedging, then without the inside story knowned only by Barrick's officers, then only time will tell for the rest of us. In that case one should look elsewhere for another producer that has only one story out in public. Another way to obtain a different view of the same object is to locate a person that is at odds with a person given their view to you, and then take the step to obtain the view of this other person. An example for this can be placed directly in front of you, as I have been labeled by RareBird as an "animal" using the negative and debasing meaning of that word. So to get my look at gold producers, which in scope and depth is a hundred times in quanity of that of RareBird's, and is a zillion times in quality of his, go to the following url and obtain a free 2 week read only trial membership and read the current Midas commentary.lemetropolecafe.com "The gold cartel has blundered terribly. The greedy banks have orchestrated themselves into a corner and they can't get out. It is now so bad that they are afraid to let the gold price rise above a ridiculously low $280, down another $10 from the previous ceiling of the $290 allowed price." You will also read a suggestion that speculation of a high nature has arrived at the statement that rather than single out a gold producer, that a complete country of producers are at risk for failure for the possibility of a catalyst being NOT a lower price of gold, but for an INCREASE in the price of gold may tank gold producers. If so then manipulation & corruption & anti-gold eXists, and not to understand puts you at risk, especially if you listen to RareBird's comments. dougak19