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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (83615)	10/15/2000 8:15:47 AM
From: Cooters	Respond to of 152472

Maurice, <<PS: Whoa Marty! I just clicked back upstream and you were in full political commentary... <The end of the news is very typical chinese: Zhongxing vowed to the leaders it will work hard to bring cdma to commercial ASAP, and not to disappoint the leaders high expectation. > Come on, less of the political stuff Marty!! >> That did not come from me. Cooters

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (83615)	10/15/2000 10:54:48 AM
From: JohnG	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Maurice. Nice Rant. Politics is necessarily about power and how it is used. Power is necessariy about making people do that which they otherwise would not do. In the US we often exercise power by consensus, by engaging people, by participation, by segments of citizens first ruling and then in turn being ruled. Some people just say that they don't like politics period. Perhaps they say this either because they don't like being told what to do or perhaps they are disgusted to see that political campaigns are usually conducted on two levels--first an emotional, manipulative level that works with some and second a reasoned, intellectual level that works with others. Wasn't it Bismark (who is given credit for uniting the small German states into one country) who said that sausage and laws are two things that it is not so nice to watch being made. What is clear is that politics will always be with us because it is necessary to get both people and organizations to do that which they might otherwise not do in order for society and its organizatons to take any direction and act in unity.Without politics there would be chaos in the polity. JohnG