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Gold/Mining/Energy : Corner Bay Silver (BAY.T) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: ahhaha who wrote (1484)10/15/2000 5:50:46 PM
From: GraceZ  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4409
 
I could make much better counter arguments than you have.


Why would one continue to hold this investment?



To: ahhaha who wrote (1484)10/15/2000 6:01:57 PM
From: timbouctou  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4409
 
You again! What have we done to be so lucky as to attract such a brilliant mind as yours on this thread?



To: ahhaha who wrote (1484)10/16/2000 8:58:24 AM
From: TheBusDriver  Respond to of 4409
 
<<Not even Wayne can grin his way out. >>

First:

And what makes you think I want to grin my way out? I'm not happy with the share price that is true. I am not happy that I under estimated the number of takeover speculators that were holding shares, that is true. I have a large part of my PF tied up in BAY and would like to diversify sooner than the next two years. However, for a 2000% increase in that two years I could retire on what I have invested. <GRIN>

Second:

You can take this as a threat if you like: Leave me out of your rantings, understand? The way I handle you will be far less civil that CC that is for sure. I have delt with negative BS artists that make you look small time.

LEAVE ME ALONE. I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT YOU DON'T WANT ME IN THIS "DEBATE"!

Wayne<grin>



To: ahhaha who wrote (1484)10/17/2000 10:38:29 PM
From: s.jennings  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4409
 
<<A drop from $3 to $2 isn't unusual for cats and dogs, but Hecla didn't do that.>>

A drop from $3 to $2 is perfectly normal for an exploration company making the transition from the discovery phase of its life cycle to the analysis phase, due to the perception of dead money that you mentioned. If the analysis results in a positive development decision then the stock will begin to appreciate as the actual production date nears. HL and CDE didn't drop like BAY because they aren't in the same phase of their corporate lives. SIL didn't do it because SIL doesn't do anything. It wasn't public during the exploration phase and the market decided the name Soros was worth $10-$12/share at the onset of the analysis phase. I'm convinced that the same 20,000-30,000 shares gets flipped back and forth between the same 2 or 3 brokers every day just to create the illusion of a warm body.

To me the only reason for an investment in BAY at this time and price would be based solely on the potential for a takeover or a significant rise in the POS. Not that the stock isn't undervalued relative to its intrinsic value, but, the market doesn't care what the value is today. They want to project what the value will be 3-6 months from now and a takeover or rising silver prices are the only impetus to produce a significant,short term increase. If the company proceeds to production themselves, there is no accurate way to determine a per share value until the final development costs and gearing ratio are known. This is another reason SIL does nothing. The projected development costs seem to be a bit light and the banks apparently are not interested in financing as large a portion of the costs as SIL would like.

I'm not familiar with cats and dogs but to me, the price action in BAY is typical of probably 90% of the exploration companies that have travelled the same road BAY is currently on and is more the result of market expectations and impatience than fundamental value.

Obviously, I am in agreement with a number of points you've made. I do however disagree with your inference that this situation is company specific to BAY and should be viewed as a negative. Seems to me that everything is progressing quite normally. I may even start nibbling in the near future.