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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: cosmicforce who wrote (1755)	10/17/2000 12:10:25 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 28931

If I understood Solon correctly, the chem composition and the crystal structure are just your human ways of defining the rock - and "rockness" could be something completely different. If I understood Solon- which I may not have.

To: cosmicforce who wrote (1755)	10/17/2000 1:44:50 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

"I am a granite boulder in a stream". I am not disagreeing with you or TP here. I am simply saying that the rock has as many meanings as the number of distinct consciousness carriers who observe it for meaning. If all sentience is sucked out of the universe by the cosmic girl with the long straw, then what will give the rock meaning? I don't believe it is an information storage device unless some consciousness is there to interpret its structural order as information. Meaning is basically an argument in a sentient being. Now if we only suck out the consciousness of TP, Solon, cosmicforce, et al, then there may yet be meaning being experienced within or without the rock. But there must be awareness somewhere for the rock to have meaning. Consider the proposition that the only consciousness left in the world is yours. And consider that you look at the rock and you decide after many years of living alone that the rock is a friend and a lover, and a confidant. This would be the meaning of the rock. And if the rock had a kid with a gravelly voice...well, the kid could give it a different meaning. So I am not diagreeing that the rock might be meaningful. I am just saying: "Meaningful to whom?"