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To: porn_start878 who wrote (14762)10/18/2000 12:26:29 AM
From: Andrew ShihRespond to of 275872
 
All,

We must not try to think of Intel as the enemy :).
This is a Duopoly, and each must make it's $$$.

Intel knows that the P3 can't match the Athlon. If they
keep producing P3's, there is going to be oversupply and
inventory buildup. If you look at this Qs results, it
looks like they shifted a substantial amount of capacity
towards chipsets. Next quarter they're going to shift
a lot of capacity towards P4. It doesn't matter if the P4
is "faster" than an Athlon. If AMD can keep it's bread
and butter to 200 Mhz over Intel, it'll do fine. Right
now it's probably around 800 or 866 for Intel and 1 Ghz
for AMD. As long as Intel doesn't do something stupid
with their capacity, AMD can keep trending marketshare up
1 or 2 % each quarter and have very solid growth.

I'm not looking for insane revenue next year. A 25% gain
over this year for revenue and a 15-20% gain in profit would
suit me just fine. Heck, 2.50 * 1.2 = $3. If they provide
AMD with a fair multiple (20x or 25x), that means a stock
price of $60-$75. As the stock keeps falling, that possible
return is getting bigger and bigger.

-Andrew



To: porn_start878 who wrote (14762)10/18/2000 12:35:17 AM
From: Jim McMannisRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
RE:"They will ramp P4 more aggressively than we first though."

After seeing Mustang, they have no choice...

Jim



To: porn_start878 who wrote (14762)10/18/2000 12:56:07 AM
From: Dan3Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 275872
 
Re: The Apocalyptic

I think you're forgetting that in the time frame that P4 is a volume product it will be competing against Clawhammer.

Either chip will be more than adequate for almost any purpose, but Clawhammer will be a 64 bit chip - and P4 will be a relic from the 32 bit past.

At these levels it's perception and marketing - and a 64 bit chip will have a huge advantage.

Dan

PS - If P4 IPC really is as poor as early benchmarks have indicated, then Intel up the proverbial creek, with no paddle in sight. I think everyone has just assumed that the final numbers will be much better. If they aren't, Intel won't be competitive for years.



To: porn_start878 who wrote (14762)10/18/2000 1:19:39 AM
From: PetzRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
max, I don't think Intel can get to 2.5-3 million P4's in Q1. That would require a 5000 WPW ramp of their entire Israeli fab starting within two weeks. Jumping from 700 wafers to 5000 is extremely risky when your production hasn't started eeking out of the fab yet.

Petz