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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: American Spirit who wrote (3239)10/20/2000 11:52:49 AM
From: Lino...  Respond to of 10042
 
He sounds like real common sense kind of guy......besides, if you don't like him, he must be OK



To: American Spirit who wrote (3239)10/20/2000 1:53:29 PM
From: Scarecrow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10042
 
Yes Cheney voted against the US position to free Nelson Mandela. Also voted against outlawing plastic terrorist guns and cop-killer bullets. Also against school lunch and head start. Also against every environmental measure ever put before him.

Perfect! You spit out the DNC talking points on command like a wind-up doll....

How transparent can you get? I'd love to trace your IP address -- we all know right where it'd go...



To: American Spirit who wrote (3239)10/20/2000 4:02:28 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10042
 
abcnews.go.com

“You know, they’ve gotten in a lot of — at least a little stir lately because Mr. Cheney, was he was in Congress, voted gainst letting Nelson Mandela out of prison … Thank God, nobody listened to the vote that was cast by the Republican nominee for vice president.” — President
Clinton at a fundraiser Monday in Palm Beach, Fla.

Nothing obviously silly about that, at least until you know a bit more about the venue. Clinton was speaking to a fundraiser benefiting Bill Nelson, a Democratic candidate for the U.S. Senate seat being vacated by Republican Connie Mack. The president helped Nelson raise more than $1.2 million that day. According to White House aides, the president was totally unaware that Nelson, who served in Congress along with Cheney, also voted against the resolution calling for Mandela’s release. (Nelson’s vote was first reported by National Review Online at about the same time as the president’s remarks.) Nelson’s explanation for his vote is essentially the same as Cheney’s, namely, that Mandela’s party were still communists and had refused to renounce violence.


There was not vote in congress about releaseing Mandela. Congress likes to think it can decide everything, but in a case like this even congress knows it could not order the release of Mandela. There was a vote on passing a resolution urging the release of Mandela and others (in other words not just Mandela). This vote was taken at a time when the ANC had not renounced violence, and sometimes did act as a terrorist group. Certinly the ANC had plenty of provication from the violence and injustice of the government but it is also understandable that Cheney
and others (includeing Democrats) did not vote to urge the release of terrorists.

Tim