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To: dougSF30 who wrote (126606)10/20/2000 3:56:20 PM
From: stribe30  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578531
 
dougsf30 re: "guess all of Western Europe is a fluke. Strong gun control, orders of magnitude less gun violence. Funny how that happens, ain't it?"

dont forget about your neighbours to the north of you.. since thats the 1st country your gun control lobby turns their venom on when they attempt to scare monger people.
Apparently Charlton Heston thinks we're an enslaved people up here... or about to be. said as much in a speech to a gun club out west in BC (where they are a bit more wacky anyhow)... the rest of the country just laughed at him.
People up here simply dont want the gun culture that proliferates south of the border.. the NRA cant seem to grasp that...they figure we must all be socialist up here and under the thumb of the government (I'd say something about the fact there is such a thing as democratic socialism.. but thats another OT tangent)



To: dougSF30 who wrote (126606)10/20/2000 5:13:07 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 1578531
 
Tim, I was unaware that those two groups ("criminals" and "law abiding") were static, with unchanging membership.

They are not, but most gun crimes are commited by people with criminal histories. Also people who have not commited crimes in the past but now decide to use a gun to commit a crime will be able to obtain one even if we add to the many thousands of gun control laws on the books. An additional short term for a weapons violation will be unlikely to deter someone who is willing to risk facing a long prison term or execution by killing someone.

Tim



To: dougSF30 who wrote (126606)10/23/2000 2:29:04 AM
From: Joe NYC  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578531
 
Doug,

If guns were causing gun murders, and not people, you would think that the US would have higher incidence of only gun murders, but would be right in-line with other countries in other non-gun-related crimes.

But it is not the case. How do you explain other, non-gun-related crime that is so much higher in the US than in the rest of the "civilized" world?

Joe