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To: steve harris who wrote (126656)	10/21/2000 4:56:28 PM
From: pawa	Respond to of 1579241

RE:The opinion that it is not a Life until the possibility it can exist on it's own outside the mothers womb is terribly wrong. Hmm, maybe it is not a real human life until it can feed and shelter its self. And if abortion were allowed up until it is a real human life (i.e. 8yrs to 21yrs old depending on the unit in question) the producers of the unit (i.e. parents) may have more leverage over the unit (i.e. make it behave under threat of abortion). of course the abortion would have to be performed by an MD! pawa

To: steve harris who wrote (126656)	10/21/2000 8:02:25 PM
From: Eric K.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1579241

OT Steve- This-- w-cpc.org -- is not a human life. There is not any meaningful difference between this and a simple eukaryotic organism. There is some ambiguity as to the exact point at which human life begins, but, yes, it is my argument that a 10-week old collection of goo with some DNA thrown in, and resembling a piglet embryo as much as a human embryo, can be thrown into a dumpster, but that a 33-week old baby that simply hasn't exited the mother's womb yet is subject to the protections of society. If you want to interject religion and a soul into the discussion, then you should be content to let God judge all the transgressors of His will. As it is, murder or armed robbery or rape are not illegal because they violate God's commandments or the soul of another person, but because they violate the implicit social contract-- by which we surrender our right to murder or steal or rape in exchange for the right to live without fear of being murdered or robbed or sexually assaulted-- on which we construct civilization. As to the "miracle" of human life-- I'd suggest you make a close examination of your favorite semiconductor. I find the process of using VLSI tools to connect millions of transistors to create a microprocessor that performs billions of operations per second with 100% reliability for potentially as long as the longest human life is as formidable as the amount of effort that would have been required to make the Krebs cycle, mitosis/meiosis, sodium/potassium pumps and other organic processes that lead to a functional human lifeform. This is my last post on this topic. -Eric