To: average joe who wrote (2190 ) 10/22/2000 2:05:57 PM From: Scott Bergquist Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 28931 "And you just can't see it". Maybe you owe me $100,000, but you just can't find the bill. Trust me, I've seen it. You owe it. Just pay me. It wasn't on a tree, but a sprinkler spelled it out on the sidewalk, as I walked by. >> "average joe will send $100,000 to SiliconInvestor. You pick it up, to further my work. Holly Trinity". You bring up the difference between secular humanism and religion: dogma. EVERY idea in secular humanism is subject to discussion and modification. That is the absence of dogma. Dogma is the provenance of religion. When is the last time the possibility of God not existing was ever brought up and discussed, pro and con, in your church?? Communism in Russia and China was a religion. Those that dared to question the "Truth" were imprisoned or liquidated. They were "atheists" only in the true sense of the word: "without a deity". But they regarded their political system as a religion: to be obeyed, praised, and never questioned. Notice what you wrote: "you just can't see it" (If not me, and no one else, it is not readable) "you drop the name" (I didn't drop a single name) "I know you've been told" (where did you hear anything told to me?) "you've been brain washed" (by what measure?) "I think most child molesters would." (< is this derived from your personal experience??) "your manifesto" You are making many judgments. Obey your "Sunday school" lesson: "Judge not..Lest ye be judged" (< incidently, the first guys to translate the "Holy Bible" from Latin to Old English, in the days of King Henry VIII, were burned at the stake for "blasphemy". NEVER was the Bible to be translated from Latin, the language of Christian Rome in the time of Constantine. A "weeny roast" is held each year to commemorate the two unfortunate translators!)