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To: Dynastar454 who wrote (15520)	10/23/2000 12:13:54 AM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 275872

Re: 'This is an interesting idea, I have not heard this before. Not to claim anyone here has a bias, :-), but is there any technical discusion of this possibiltiy you could give me a link to? " Here's PROOF that the Pentium 4 can never reach 2 GHz in clock speed: Pentium 4 To Reach 2 GHz, Intel Officials Say By Mark LaPedus, Semiconductor Business News Aug 22, 2000 (2:20 PM) URL: techweb.com Intel Corp. here today gave a sneak preview of its future microprocessor lines, but industry analysts attending the company's developer conference here indicated that the MPU giant provided little or no surprises during its presentation. At the Intel Developer Forum (IDF), Intel described a new 1-GHz central processor unit for servers, a low-power CPU for mobile systems, and a high-speed desktop microprocessor, which has a record clock rate of 2 GHz. On the desktop side, Intel provided more details of its long-awaited, Pentium 4 processor--a 1.4- to 1.5-GHz CPU chip. At IDF, Intel officials boosted the clock speed of the Pentium chip to an eye-popping 2-GHz speed--in a possible move to regain the claim of fastest microprocessor in the company's race against rival Advanced Micro Devices Inc. of Sunnyvale, Calif. "This is the world's fastest processor for desktops," said Albert Yu, senior vice president and general manager of Intel'sArchitecture Group, during his keynote address at IDF today. "We will launch this in the fourth quarter of this year," he promised. There were few other surprises about the Pentium 4, according to analysts attending the first day of the conference. While Intel has been talking about the Pentium 4 for some time, the company did outlined some new features about the processor, including the NetBurst architecture. NetBurst comprises of several pieces, including the Rapid Execution Engine, a high-speed CPU core that resembles Intel's dynamic execution architecture in the Pentium 3 line. The Santa Clara, Calif.-based company also said it plans to integrate 256-Kbit of cache in the Pentium 4, but did not discuss the memory interfaces. On the server side, meanwhile, Intel talked about a 1-GHz Xeon chip. And in what some believed was a response to startup Transmeta Corp., Intel also discussed the low-power benefits of its Pentium 3 mobile processor.

To: Dynastar454 who wrote (15520)	10/23/2000 12:49:27 AM
From: pgerassi	Respond to of 275872

Dear Dynastar: Scumbria had a discussion of the reasons why, either in this thread or the unmoderated thread. In addition, IIRC, this was also discussed on a forum (I think Ace's Forum at www.aceshardware.com , I forget whether it was on the technical or general forum). As more definitive information has subsequently come out, he has stated that this simply strengthens his view that this was a poor decision on Intel's part. IMHO, at some time in the future, this will be quietly removed and replaced with a more traditional pipe architecture (probably when it runs into the problems Scumbria indicated wrt scaling). IMHO, the overhead alone (die area, transistor, or heat budget) could be better put to use in other areas. You can acheive virtually the same effect with a more complex scheduler with a traditional pipe. Pete