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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (17204)	10/23/2000 8:21:24 AM
From: Tom Clarke	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

Crown Prince Alexander II received a warm welcome in Belgrade Crown Prince Alexander II was welcomed to Belgrade yesterday by allies of President Vojislav Kostunica who say they will support a referendum on re-establishing a constitutional monarchy in Yugoslavia. The prince was greeted at Belgrade's Surcin airport by a small but enthusiastic crowd of royalists, Chetniks and admirers. Among them was the new mayor of Belgrade, Milan St Protic. Mr St Protic, a close ally of Mr Kostunica, said a referendum could be held "in the near future". He added: "The question of monarchy will be decided by the people. We who believe in it will accept the decision of this nation." As the crown prince arrived, supporters chanted slogans calling for the monarchy to be restored. Some waved royalist flags or held photographs of the royal family. Dragan Milosevic, leader of the royalist Serbia Together movement, said monarchists were pushing for a referendum in about a year. He said: "A referendum is the best democratic choice. But we should wait about a year. The Communists destroyed the truth and educated people against the monarchy and we need time to change this." Leposava Mihailovic, a 62-year-old florist, could hardly contain her excitement as the prince stepped out of the airport terminal. She said: "I have been waiting for this moment for years. I'm so happy and I love him very much. God has brought him back." As bodyguards struggled to control the crowd, Roza Niksic, 68, a farmer's wife, waved an old royal flag. She said: "This country has deteriorated so much without the king. We farmers have been ruined. "Ever since Tito came we have had no prosperity and no rights. All Milosevic has brought us is Chinese immigrants." Some supporters held royalist memorabilia, others flowers. Chants of "We want the king" and "Stay with us, stay with us" went up. A 71-year-old man wearing traditional Serbian folk dress with embroidered royal emblems proudly showed off photographs of the former king's royal coach, which he said he was rebuilding in his back yard. Borislav Djekovic, a heavily tattooed punk rocker, was wearing dirty jeans and an American silver dollar on a chain around his neck. He carried a carpet bearing the royal crest. He said: "We will crown Alexander king and if that fails we will crown his son Petar." Royalist sentiment has been strong in Serbia in the past decade. When protesters stormed the federal parliament on Oct 5, some carried copies of the old royal flag. Many opposition leaders are sympathetic to reinstating a constitutional monarchy. Last night, the crown prince was due to meet Mr Kostunica, the opposition co-ordinator Zoran Djindjic, students from the resistance movement Otpor, and Patriarch Pavle, head of the Serbian Orthodox Church. Alexander was born in Claridges Hotel in 1945 in a suite declared Yugoslav territory for the day four years after his father, King Peter II, fled when his country was overrun by Nazi Germany. Yugoslav kings must be born on Yugoslav soil. He has spent most of his life in Britain and America working as a businessman. He sought to play down talk of an immediate restoration of the monarchy, suggesting that Serbia had other, more pressing problems. He begged the West to help Serbs recover from Milosevic's rule. He said: "The most important thing today is to bring help to the people, and that Europe and America keep their word. Where are the pensions to come from, where is the medical aid to come from?" Yugoslav reformers and Milosevic loyalists have agreed to hold elections on Dec 24, Serbian president Milan Milutinovic announced. But reformers centred on Mr Kostunica say hardliners are still blocking the formation of an interim government. Mr Kostunica's allies have announced a new deadline of 10am today for talks to be completed. If the Socialists fail to agree to their demands, anti-Milosevic party leaders have said they will call for new demonstrations. telegraph.co.uk

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (17204)	10/23/2000 5:05:56 PM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 17770

It's long overdue for Israelis to face the music: the original Zionist dream of setting up a safe haven for abused Jews from Europe has turned into a fascistic nightmare wherein the victim's been recast as the torturer....>>>> Gus, that just shows how poorly you understand Jews....the entire survival of Diaspora, its unmatched historicaly financial strength of any small and dispersed group in the face of the adversity and prosecution, culminating in the creation of Israel were predicating on the unique ability to seek each other and is not a religious phenomenon and ...well it is just understood or not... To compare that to Arabs that have nothing in common, except brands of the same religion is a complete misunderstanding of history and lessons of history....Individualy Jews do not like Jews, it is true, more so in tiny Israel, however there is nothing more important for Jews than their collective survival with Israel at the heart of this, just like bees protecting mother-bee...