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To: Rarebird who wrote (60065)	10/23/2000 11:29:59 AM
From: re3	Respond to of 116764

one can try to state that certain personal issues are just confidential, which, really, they are. there are boundaries and students need not know why their teacher chose (or fell into) that profession.

To: Rarebird who wrote (60065)	10/23/2000 3:25:17 PM
From: Zardoz	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116764

Anyone know at what point the XAU index is no longer allowed to trade as a future? Hutch

To: Rarebird who wrote (60065)	10/23/2000 10:07:15 PM
From: Richnorth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116764

OT (By the way, were you ever at Paradise Valley near Winlaw in Alberta, Canada, in the late 60s and early 70s?) _________________________________________________________ OT What you recommended is easier said than done! BTW, education in the classroom is not entirely concerned with history, politics and social studies. If teaching and learning is concerned with nothing more than what you recommended, then all may be hunky-dory for all in the classroom. Don't forget there are other subjects to contend with such as Math, Science, Computer Science and several others that have to be taught/learnt in logical sequence and which require a lot of discipline to master. The majority of our students these days are so used to being entertained and so used to seeking the easiest way out of any difficulty that any type of learning requiring effort and discipline is a "turn off" for them. Far too many of them regularly seek to do mickey-mousey or artsy-fartsy courses in order to maintain their "GPA" or Grade Point Average. Big joke!!! A bigger joke is that school counsellors more often than not encourage students to change courses in midstream and also to complain about any difficulties (real or imagined) rather than encourage them to seize the bull by the horns whenever they are faced with difficulties. And so our students are being cast in the "If-you-don't-succeed-at-first, then-complain-and-complain-and-complain-and-then-seek-counselling" cultural mold. Apparently, the counsellors believe that this is great for the students' mental health. Verily, the counsellors are telling us that it is imperative not to ruffle the self-esteem of students under any circumstances. They say that ruffling their self-esteem is bad for their psyche and whatnot and so they must always be treated with kid gloves lest they get turned off forever. (I think the counsellors are more concerned with maintaining their popularity and keeping their jobs.) I believe part of the blame for the poor attitude and achievement of our students stems from the fact that the majority of the teachers in schools today happen to have come from the last 30% of their graduating class (bottom of the barrel) at university, and a good number of parents are people who once dreaded (or still hate) school like the plague. Further, life has been too easy for all. The thinking seems to be that, if you can have a decent living without having to study hard, especially when the State is robbing the well-off to feed and clothe you, why go through a bloodbath of study or put your head in the "meat grinder"??? After all, did the counsellors and shrinks not recommend that we ought never to get into any stressful situation? (Oh, and by the way, the English philosopher, Bertrand Russell, once wrote that an American would rather be humbled in the classroom than on the athletic field.) Is it any wonder then that North American students have been faring so badly in national and (particularly more so) in international tests. Despite being the #1 nation in the world and also the one that spends the most money on education, the U.S. has failed to produce superior students!!! Time and time again, one finds that the majority of the students who made the honor rolls were recent arrivals from far away places with strange-sounding names!!! Very, very big joke !!! Time and time again, politicians have advocated overhauling changes. But, at the end of the day, it all turned out to be talk, talk and talk. In fact it all turned out to be some kind of "NATO" (meaning NO ACTION, TALK ONLY !!!) Big joke !!! Everybody involved seems to have a most wonderful sense of humor, eh??? Perhaps it might interest you to read the articles at:- Message 14633669