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To: dale_laroy who wrote (15581)	10/23/2000 1:46:36 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Re: I expect the combination of Mustang / DDR / 133(266) on 760 to result in, at best, an average total of 20% performance improvement versus ThunderBird / SDR / 100(200) on 750. Do you really think so? Current benchmarks and some hints from Intel put P3/Athlon on PC133 at 20% greater IPC than P4. A 20% improvement over that for Mustang/DDR would mean a 1.1GHZ Mustang would consistently outperform a 1.5GHZ P4. A 1.5GHZ Mustang/DDR would outperform a 2.1GHZ P4, and more important from a marketing standpoint, completely embarrass a 1.5GHZ P4. If P4 were to receive the same ridicule as was heaped upon the early celerons, it could damage its long term prospects. Could Mustang IPC outperform P4 by that much? Paul DeMone has claimed that P4 IPC will be as good or better than P3 IPC with such conviction that it almost appears he has seen benchmark results. It will be very interesting to see independent benchmarks! Dan

To: dale_laroy who wrote (15581)	10/23/2000 4:17:54 PM
From: porn_start878	Respond to of 275872

MMMM... so going from PC1600 +TBird to PC2100 + Mustang awould result in only a 5% gain in Quake 3? I think some people are just being overly pessimistic on PC2100/Mustang combo because they've been overly optimistic on the move from 750 to KX133 and from K75 to TBird. My guess is still 25-50% on the memory dependant benches. Max