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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: donjuan_demarco who wrote (2331)	10/23/2000 2:01:19 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

benevolent? Hardly

To: donjuan_demarco who wrote (2331)	10/23/2000 2:20:14 PM
From: cosmicforce	Respond to of 28931

Science has been slow in accepting this metaphysical angle because it DOES sound like religion. What I'm describing is a force but it is not highly mechanistic like E fields or B fields or simple machines. I don't think of it as intelligent in our way, but maybe it is. What I attribute to it is a tendency for optimized solutions as opposed to random solutions. It isn't the knower of Good and Evil because I think these things have no absolute meaning. If it was random, you'd expect a lot more marginal designs I would think. The result worked, but barely. Or you'd see designs from original designs that barely worked, but now work well. Sometimes that's what you see but usually not. These are well-oiled life machines each with impeccable design and quality. I've worked in manufacturing and product development for 20 years. THAT is not how highly mechanistic processes work. Period. They need to be designed, tuned, and monitored. So is the cascade of random events enough "watching"? For things that have long gestation periods like elephants, it doesn't seem like it. Maybe for bacteria or insects, but you need a long leverage moment (engineering speak for time upstream). Highly improbably events can happen, but there are a lot of other things that need to be in place to promote that.

To: donjuan_demarco who wrote (2331)	10/23/2000 3:52:00 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

Hi Don I think you are right about these things being religious in nature. The religion has many names and practices but it can be subsumed under the general title of Paganism. This is an excerpt from a book by Peter Jones. It's posted on his web site for any interested. spirit-wars.com "Pagan? Did you recoil at my use of such an offensive term? After much reflection, I decided to keep it, even though I know I risk offending some people. The word pagan comes from the Latin, paganus, "of the earth." Those who call themselves pagans happily admit to worshiping the creation (the earth, animals, the human spirit). I wrote this book to help you see the difference between worshiping the God who made the earth and worshiping the earth itself." Have a good day Greg