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To: pgerassi who wrote (15604)	10/23/2000 4:18:14 PM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Pete, Do you believe everything you write? Just curious... EOM

To: pgerassi who wrote (15604)	10/23/2000 7:27:18 PM
From: Charles R	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 275872

Pete, <You forget that FAB 30 was equipped with 0.13u in mind (Just check on the messages during construction on the original thread and AMD CCs). AMD has produced 0.10u chips in the lab, getting it production worthy takes a lot of time.> Fab30 being capable of 0.13 is entirely different from Fab30 producing 0.13 imminently - which is what you are (were?) claiming. <Since none of their existing fabs has 0.13u equipment and none is copper, where did they produce Tulatin? > Do you understand that it takes a long time for a fab to "produce" versus "pilot". Intel's 0.13 is in "pilot" stage now. I estimate it takes about 6 months to get to production wafer starts from here - assuming there are no significant problems of course. <As for penetration of the corporate market, Athlons are sitting in many corporate systems outside the US, and in a few 2nd tier systems here in the US. > I specifically referred to the US market. Let me make this very clear (like Jerry did in Q3 conf call) - there are no corporate AMD systems from CPQ/DELL/HP/IBM. <Also Athlon was introduced in June 1999 which is less than 1.5 years ago so, your statement is just plain wrong. Are you so certain it can not possibly be in a 1st Tier OEM Corp system by late December?> Let me see - you are saying I am wrong based on a hope that there are going to be some corporate SKUs in December? <BTW, where is the quote of 2.4GHz from Intel? > There is no "quote" from Intel. It is what I gather from the people who should know. <Intel was "comfortable" with 2 speed grades above 1GHz P3 (so far, 866 is the last normally clocked P3, 933 is still derated temp wise) and we all know how that turned out. > You are talking Paul O's spin which most of us knew was a stretch. Pete, you are reaching, and badly so. This all started with your outrageous rumor that Thunderbird will go to 1.8G on 0.18 and Mustang to 2G on 0.18 - both of which you seem to have completely backtracked from. I rest my case. Chuck