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To: tejek who wrote (126743)	10/24/2000 2:04:12 AM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578459

Ted, OT Your kidding....the right wing now is blaming violent crime on feminism? I have no idea what the agenda of the creators of the page was. It was the first relevant page I found using Google. I just looked at the numbers. You don't think having guns gives people greater confidence and a sense of power which makes pulling off a crime seem much more possible? The crime rate in the US spans gun related and non-gun-related crimes. Why do you think putting known criminals in jail would solve the problem? I bet there would be others very ready to take their place. I don't understand your reasoning here. Do you think that we have even more criminals, and they just can't make it because of competition from other criminals? But than how do you explain the dramatic drop in crime during the past 10 years? There has not been a dramatic change in the gun laws nor have the violent criminals all been locked up. The rates of incarceration went up significantly. A lot of new jails have been built. The policing is much tougher, at least here in NYC. Minor offenses that have been overlooked in the past are no longer tolerated. There is also a demographic reason (I read somewhere) at least temporary. The generation of late teens and early 20s has been smaller in recent years, but is going back up soon. I suppose a case could be made that a greater percentage of the American population has a genetic predispostion to violence because a good number of our founding fathers were outlaws in their own country. Interesting question. I have no idea how to stop these people from passing on their genes. Being locked up in prison will probably reduce the probability of them passing on their genes. Joe

To: tejek who wrote (126743)	10/24/2000 6:13:22 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 1578459

You don't think having guns gives people greater confidence and a sense of power which makes pulling off a crime seem much more possible? I do think that fearing the fact that potential victims may have guns may make people less likely to commit crimes or make them commit them less often. Why do you think putting known criminals in jail would solve the problem? I bet there would be others very ready to take their place Criminals kill, rape, steal ect., because they are the type of people who would kill, rape, or steal. Not to fit some demand in the market. (With drug dealers its different but I don't think that is particuarly relevant.) Locking up criminals has a positive effect on the crime rate. But than how do you explain the dramatic drop in crime during the past 10 years? There has not been a dramatic change in the gun laws nor have the violent criminals all been locked up. How do you explain it? There are more guns in the US now then 10 years ago. Shouldn't there be more crime if guns cause crime? But there is a strong and vocal segment of our population that does not believe that we are our brother's keeper although, strangely, they are sometimes the most devout among us. I believe strongly in charity. Government programs where you are forced to pay are not the same thing as charity. I can accept such programs that provide a very minimal safety net. The practical good achieved by these programs in my mind justifies them if they are designed and run well. (I'm not completly dogmatic about the end not justifying the means.) Tim