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To: jeff_boyd___ who wrote (126807)	10/25/2000 1:54:53 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577920

I'll apologize for saying this up front, but if nationhood is defined as the values and type of character that people have, I think there is no significant difference between Canadians and people in the upper midwest of the US. The Canadians I have known like to argue that they are more tolerant of differences and more liberal and I would agree that this is the case compared to most of the US, but here in Wisconsin and in Minnesota no one goes without health care and everyone receives access to a quality education. Jeff, Just last week, I posted to Scott that the people in some of the border states like MN, WI, ND, MI, WA, MT etc. seem very much like Canadians. The people seem more straight forward and friendlier. So how about finally joining the US? We'll cut your timber and overfish your lakes, but you will be part of the greatest county in the world. I have another alternative; why don't we, in the border states, join Canada. Greatness, IMO, is way overrated. ;~)) BTW I am originally from the Twin Cities. ted

To: jeff_boyd___ who wrote (126807)	10/25/2000 4:49:27 PM
From: stribe30	Respond to of 1577920

Jeff Boyd asked: "So how about finally joining the US? We'll cut your timber and overfish your lakes, but you will be part of the greatest county in the world." Thanks for the offer .. and no offence back.. but I already feel I'm living in the greatest country in the world. As for no differences.. take a closer look.. you will find them if you research hard enough. Look at the political culture.. much different then you think.. Canadians over all tend to have a more positive view of the government and its role it can play the the US generally does; a more active welfare state with national medicare, more generous social security and so forth is an example; we are also far less suspicious of our institutions; how many Canadian militia groups do you hear of running around predicting the government is going to enslave us all? None - there arent any. Take a look at how British tradition still permeates the society; the reason we were formed up here and the reason the people we now call United Empire Loyalists fled north after the American Revolution is because they wished to remain loyal to the British Crown. Quebec may be viewed by some as a problem.. but it is a rich part of our heritage that we were formed by 2 founding peoples; and a lot more Canadians then you might think views the French fact as enriching the nation; since the Pierre Trudeau regime, french immersion schools have exploded out west.. where once it was hard to find anything remotely resembling french. Take a look at our multiculturalism policies.. here, we encourage people to retain aspects of their culture... we are a mosaic of peoples.. not a melting pot like our good neighbours south of the border. There are other things.. like Canada being in general a lot safer place to live in (no gun culture up here either - no matter how much Ted Nugent rails at our gun control laws) the fact we pronounce "z" as "zed" instead of "zee" .. and the fact we spell some words different (colour, neighbour, etc.) The US is our best friend, and I have no doubt the people who live there are mostly proud to be American.. but in our own quiet way.. you will find most of us up here proud to be Canadian. .. besides.. we're trying to preserve our natural resources.. not strip them down to nothing.. ;) To borrow from the beer commercial, My name is Scott, and I AM CANADIAN ;)