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To: pgerassi who wrote (15983)	10/25/2000 8:06:49 PM
From: Ali Chen	Respond to of 275872

Pete, <..as there was no external way of seeing a stepping.> This is incorrect. For cB0 the CPUID=0683, and for cC0 it is 0686. According to the following document, developer.intel.com stepping 0686 starts from 600 MHz, see p.26 - Ali

To: pgerassi who wrote (15983)	10/25/2000 8:45:07 PM
From: kash johal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Pete, re:You can not tell if, a part was thrown away or not as long as there was no external way of seeing a stepping. If there was, they could have thrown them away because of possible future problems that are acceptable for a top end CPU (like no SMP allowed, etc. that is in the mainstream stepping) or just mixed them in with no one the wiser with some sort of internal remark post sort." Well there u go again spouting a bunch of BS. Semiconductor companies are very rigorous on traceability and reliability. All the way to being able to take a finished chip and look back on which specific fab lot the wafers came from and date of final packaging. They don't just "mix" up parts and ship them as something else. Also the stepping is found by reading the BIOS. Why do u feel u have to keep making up stuff to justify a dumb position. regards, Kash