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To: goldsnow who wrote (17224)10/26/2000 6:16:25 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
Re: Muslims identified the two temples mentioned in this verse as being in Mecca and Jerusalem. And that's as close as Islam's connection with Jerusalem gets -- myth, fantasy, wishful thinking. Meanwhile, Jews can trace their roots in Jerusalem back to the days of Abraham.

So can the Palestinians.... You know, I've been dropped the hint that a few Bedouin tribes couldn't possibly populate the whole of North Africa, the Middle East, and Central Asia.... So the premise is that, back in the VIIth century (after the Hegira), Islam spread round the whole region through conversion, not through immigration. Hence the common assumption that depicts today's Muslim peoples from North Africa and the Middle East as descendants of "Saudi" tribesmen who rode on camels and invaded the whole southern bank of the Mediterranean, is a fantasy. The first Arabic tribes who converted to Islam comprised maybe no more than 50,000 individuals.... Therefore, today's inhabitants of Palestine --whether Jewish, Christian or Muslim-- are indeed the legitimate descendants of the antique peoples whose settlement there dates back to Abraham.... The fact that a large majority of them converted to Islam doesn't turn them into "immigrants". Otherwise the Zionist rationale could ironically apply to Europe as well: for, as the article headed The Crescent and the Tricolor (*) reveals, Islam already is France's second most important persuasion --mainly because "root French" have freely converted themselves. Now, how would react the French people if, in 100 years from now, American Christians claim Normandy as their rightful homeland?? Hey, hold it! Those brave yankee churchgoers have done their homework --their Mormon-guaranteed family trees show that all their forefathers came from France, and, for several of them, their great-great-grandfathers died on Normandy's beaches in 1944.... Accordingly, Normandy, despite all its brand new mosques, halal foodstores, and djellabah-wearing folks, is a legitimate homeland for America's persecuted Christians! Normandy's been occupied by Muslim immigrants from Algeria, Morocco and what not! A curse on them!

(*) theatlantic.com



To: goldsnow who wrote (17224)10/26/2000 8:39:47 PM
From: average joe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
So really what is your point. The Palestinians don't even have squatters rights? Being born on a patch of land certainly makes that patch of land home.

All that counts is the last few generations, going back 5000 years to bolster any argument is pure fantasy! I guess to someone who advocates hording gold any type of fantasy is permissible.