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To: Solid who wrote (26239)	10/30/2000 3:00:32 AM
From: KW Wingman	Respond to of 29970

I believe the circumstantial evidence clearly shows that I am correct as far as the big picture goes. The record of this is started long before you showed up on this thread. I did not claim these people are hacks or bandits. Bandits may be close but I figure the following synonyms are more appropriate: deceive, betray, mislead, beguile, delude, dupe, hoodwink, bamboozle, and double-cross. Deceive involves the deliberate concealment or the misrepresentation of the truth. So they can appear that they are long while they are actually short. As a long they are more believable while they trash the stock. If you know they are short, trashing the stock, you automatically discount their arguments. This is why they don't want to disclose their position. (None of them will disclose their position apparently per the wizard's instructions, this should give you a clue) Betray implies faithlessness or treachery. Mislead means to lead in the wrong direction or into error of thought or action. Beguile suggests deceiving or misleading by means of pleasant or alluring methods. To delude is to mislead to the point where a person is unable to tell truth from falsehood or to form sound judgments. Dupe means to delude by playing upon another's susceptibilities or naiveté. Hoodwink refers to deluding by trickery. Bamboozle less formally means to delude by the use of such tactics as hoaxing, befuddling, or artful persuasion. Double-cross implies the betrayal of a confidence or the willful breaking of a pledge. ps-I appreciate your getting smoked with perceived negativity, but some of the posters you cite are not hacks and bandits. It is true that some of the ah, posters that seem to be a party to this may not be actually involved. As I said, it is only circumstantial evidence like birds of a feather flock together.