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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TigerPaw who wrote (2733)	10/26/2000 10:04:39 AM
From: epicure	Respond to of 28931

I think there may be a problem with equivalencies between what agnostics and atheists "know", and what believers "know". I do not think we are using the same words in the same ways. And it isn't just the word "know" that's the problem.

To: TigerPaw who wrote (2733)	10/26/2000 10:59:16 AM
From: Solon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 28931

Hey, TP! Are galaxies and stars all the same age, do you think?! I wonder if anybody knows the answer to that...

To: TigerPaw who wrote (2733)	10/26/2000 11:06:27 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

Re: I think you are turning a philosophical argument into kind of a trick question that turns on the meaning of know which has subtly different usage in different parts of your sentence. A more accurate paraphrase would be that nobody can know everything. I for one think that Greg is playing with the meaning of "reality". Agnostics don't deny that it's impossible for human intellect to know anything about anything --otherwise how come Americans landed Amstrong on the moon? Or how was it possible for life expectancy to continually rise over the past 100 years (at least in the west)? Indeed, sciences do tell us something about our universe, yet they fall short of revealing us the ultima ratio of anything. Researchers in nuclear physics lie at the forefront of pure sciences and they keep telling us how evasive the intimate nature of matter is.... Worshipers of any breed have, in the eye of the agnostic, crossed a "red line" --that is, going from explaining how things work to fabulating on why things work the way they work....