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To: LarsA who wrote (84895)	10/26/2000 12:58:00 PM
From: Michael Kimmel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

To my thinking, even this is not a good comparison. The key is - what's crucial to the application. I can't say that I understand the merits between PAL and NTSC, but because the relative strength of one over the other is still acceptable for the application - one is just about as good as another. In this sense, you're right. Given the applications as they exist today, GSM is probably about as good as CDMA. But - think out a couple years...when the applications are going to require speed. 3G is about data - and data is about speed and reliability (and cost). Let's take video for example. Suppose the gating item between two standards now becomes one of dropped frames, bad reception, and loss of signal. And let's face it - that's exactly what we're dealing with when we compare 3G alternatives. When it comes to applications that require fast data transfer to be successful, the 3G technology that provides the fastest/most reliable transport is going to have an absolutely crucial advantage.

To: LarsA who wrote (84895)	10/26/2000 1:21:48 PM
From: DanD	Respond to of 152472

GSM may not be the best but it will stay around you mean like analog did? get real

To: LarsA who wrote (84895)	10/26/2000 1:38:36 PM
From: engineer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 152472

Hey, if you really look at it, the euros have shot themselves in teh foot. People in euro are delaying the new GSM rollouts and if WCDMA is vaporware, they will get their own FUD back in thier face. Now they have political face to save and they will isolate themselves from the rest of hte world. China doesn;t want the same dictatorial GSM guys in there selling INTO china and not teaching them how to export. This time, they have a partner who doesn't care which way they make phones, just make them. GSM is an old standard which was invented to solve one problem. The one problem was cross border charging and roaming across Europe. It solved this by having SIM cards and having 11 different standards on day 1. It took a considerable amount of time to implement due to this. This is why the SW stack is so vitally important. GSM was NOT invented because it was the technology forward looking pancea for all time. It lost that battle about 1997 when CDMA took over as the fastest growing technology. It is cheaper. But not much more. Attempts to CLAIM it is better are pretty weak. Now there is a new problem in Europe brewing. First the operators are refusing to commit to wcdma or delaying it. Second, wiht the giant price disparity in license costs by country, some will be alot chepaer than others. this does not fit well into the European mentality which is to have fairly stabilized pricing across Europe. This will delay and complicate the roaming agreements for those implementing 3G. Add to this that Europe is now entinering into a VERY depressed economy and the european handset makers will be hard pressed to meet future earnings expectations as well as raise capital to expand and build out wcdam there. Will be a very interesting next couple of years while our "betamax" kicks ass on their VCR.